Clay Aitken Comes Out As Gay

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23 Sep 2008, 9:28 pm

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Yeah but he gives me the creeps.. can't help it. Maybe once he fully accepts his gayness he will be less creepy..

it s interesting you have picked up on a perceived lack of self awareness in soem one who you think is gay-but-doesnt-know-it ( as opposed to just gay).

i used to attend an adult AS gathering/meeting to discuss issues.
there was a girl there who annoyed everyone.....but really annoyed everyone, she butted into conversations , dismissed opinion talked over everyone, in avery matter-of-fact nochelant but frustratingly efficient annoying manner.
man she made us cross.
anyone one of the other participants said tome once....." how she is to us, is how we are to other people"

my draw dropped, i didnt see it until it was pointed out to me.

point?

when someone accepts their AS they are hard to "spot"

there is somethign that gives you closure when you accept AS.

similar i suppose to accepting your gay.

but from a different perspective......"seeing" someone who lacks self awareness is easy to do...but it is also easy for others to do to you.

Yes... honestly, when I look at the guy... I see demons. . demons are there to fill you with doubt, and rip your soul out of your face. I'm not saying it's his fault.. but like i said, I can't help it. I see thing in people

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23 Sep 2008, 9:28 pm

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It's hard to mock or verabally abuse someone who is at peace with himself. :idea:

I don't think he's at peace with himself, but that's just my opinion.. I can't judge him for that alone though, so i dont.. I dont think saying hes creepy is mocking him.. if I were mocking him then it'd be funny

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23 Sep 2008, 9:47 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:

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It's hard to mock or verabally abuse someone who is at peace with himself. :idea:

It seemed (to me at least) you were saying he was creepy because of his homosexuality at first. You're saying he's creepy in spite of it though? He's less physically attractive than almost all celebrities, perhaps that's why you find him creepy?

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23 Sep 2008, 9:51 pm

BIG surprise... :roll:

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23 Sep 2008, 9:56 pm

Fidget wrote:

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slowmutant wrote:

It's hard to mock or verabally abuse someone who is at peace with himself. :idea:

I find him creepy... because when I look at him, I see a very inward self discomfort.. I wasn't referring to his homosexuality, but It's not like that wouldn't play a roll in it. Perhaps that's the reason he's crawling in his own skin.

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23 Sep 2008, 10:42 pm

:cheers:

now let the man live his life.

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23 Sep 2008, 11:04 pm

Its good he's not living a lie anymore, and people should be happy for the guy.

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24 Sep 2008, 3:59 am

This is not news nor is it a current topic.

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24 Sep 2008, 7:25 am

slowmutant wrote:

It's hard to mock or verabally abuse someone who is at peace with himself. :idea:

This I agree with.

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24 Sep 2008, 8:55 am

until my mom discussed who this guy was I had no idea (as in I did npt know who Clay Aiken was)-but I knew there were rumors of this meh.

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24 Sep 2008, 9:04 am

I'm not surprised.

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24 Sep 2008, 11:17 am

YAY! Finally, I'm so glad he just came out with it. Congratulations!

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27 Sep 2008, 10:41 pm

liloleme wrote:

I thought Richard Simmons was open about his sexuality. Too bad we dont live in a world where this is NOT newsworthy and just accepted and understood. If we did live in such a world we (aspies) wouldnt be freaks either.

You live in a hysterical world then because people outside of your house new Clay was gay. This is as newsworthy as water.

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