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16 Jan 2009, 2:44 pm

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at 26 he'll be the youngest actor to ever play the Doctor.

Which fits given how many regenerations he has gone through. As the doctor himself gets older, usually the next actor to play him looks younger than the prior one.

Merlin maybe?


I've noticed that too!...Although the second youngest Doctor at the time of his first episode was Davison I believe. But other than that, there's an obvious pattern there. He started out as an old man and now he's gotten far younger. Now, if we're to believe that Hartnell's Doctor is indeed his first incarnation, than the Doctor is nearing his Thirteenth and final regeneration - unless something happens for him to gain more regenerations - which was mentioned in an eighties serial - possibly a Davison or Colin Baker one - (of course with the Time Lords gone and all this can no longer happen).


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16 Jan 2009, 3:34 pm

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unless something happens for him to gain more regenerations - which was mentioned in an eighties serial - possibly a Davison or Colin Baker one - (of course with the Time Lords gone and all this can no longer happen).


1. The master seemed to think that with enough power - the entire eye of harmony (black hole at the centre of Gallifrey) he could boost his regenerative cycle without the need for time lords.

2. Rassilon discovered the secret of immortality by himself.

3. Lungbarrow makes it clear that the Doctor is clearly not a Time Lord but some kind of entity in time lord shape. He was "the other" and then he becomes a "lightning being" which jumps into a new body on the loom.



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16 Jan 2009, 5:49 pm

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1. The master seemed to think that with enough power - the entire eye of harmony (black hole at the centre of Gallifrey) he could boost his regenerative cycle without the need for time lords.

Which brings up another point ... he managed to go beyond the 12 regenerations. First as a shambling figure during Baker's time, then by taking over a body. No explanation of how he got to be Dr. Yana though (who was then able to regenerate).

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2. Rassilon discovered the secret of immortality by himself.

Well, I think the doc already knows he does not want that solution!

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3. Lungbarrow makes it clear that the Doctor is clearly not a Time Lord but some kind of entity in time lord shape. He was "the other" and then he becomes a "lightning being" which jumps into a new body on the loom.

But is Lungbarrow cannon?


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16 Jan 2009, 6:23 pm

maybe the Master got a new cycle previous to the eradication of the Time Lords. The Doctor - as far as we know - did not. Unless Moffat decides to bring back the Time Lords (maybe by the same event that causes the Tenth Doctor to regenerate into the Eleventh).

I don't think the books - except for the Eighth Doctor's book adventures - are canon. And no one accepts that comment that the Doctor is half-human in the TV movie no one saw.


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17 Jan 2009, 2:20 am

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But is Lungbarrow cannon?


IMHO, Lungbarrow is closer to cannon that The Enemy Within (TV Movie) will ever be.

The BBC announced at some point that the Virgin series was considered to be cannon. I can't remember if they announced this before the TV movie or before the 2005 series.

Either way, it's "loose cannon" and they can change bits as it suits them - in any case, what they did with the cybermen isn't cannon. It's too much to think that John Lumic would have done exactly what the mondasians did - and named his creatures the same.

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The master was able to hijack bodies but only because of something he'd learned from the keeper of traken (and possibly a power inherited from that position). It's in the book.

There's also the suggestion that he was having to continually hijack bodies. He might have looked like Tremas but apparently (it's mentioned in the 5 doctors book and a few other places) he kept having to take new bodies. Perhaps his tremas appearance stayed because it was his first.

As far as getting a new cycle... perhaps he hijacked a time lord body.



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17 Jan 2009, 2:21 am

Sorry ... browser problem resulted in duplicate post.