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03 Feb 2009, 10:37 am

if she hadn't admitted her intentions neither her spitting or disturbing the peace would be considered criminal. and i could go to the nearest bridge and do the exact same thing and no one would call me a criminal unless i said i faked it. even if it was a genuine suicide attempt and i was truly suicidal i would still be considered a criminal if i just said that i faked it. actions have nothing to do with her being a "criminal" its only about intention or motivation



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03 Feb 2009, 10:44 am

if someone suffers temporary insanity and comits a crime they're classed as innocent, ifsomeone who's handicapped commits a crime that isn't their fault they're put into rehabilitation or an asylem where they can be treated or cured. the simple fact is the woman new what she was doing and so she should be punished.


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03 Feb 2009, 10:54 am

it'd actually be more interesting if she was punished, getting punished for intent is usually just reserved for stuff like murder or robbery. anyway it'll be interesting to see where she goes with it



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03 Feb 2009, 2:25 pm

I think that the "artist" clearly planned her "art work", in common with the MD in the news paper I would ask her to just paint a picture next time.

I feel that the girl is using art as an excuse to do things which are not right, if I was to vandalise the woman's car or to fake an offensive photo of the artist as part of my "art project" do you think that she would feel happy about my deeds ?

I feel that art is being abused by those who use it as an excuse for offensive acts.


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03 Feb 2009, 2:57 pm

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I think that the "artist" clearly planned her "art work", in common with the MD in the news paper I would ask her to just paint a picture next time.

I feel that the girl is using art as an excuse to do things which are not right, if I was to vandalise the woman's car or to fake an offensive photo of the artist as part of my "art project" do you think that she would feel happy about my deeds ?

I feel that art is being abused by those who use it as an excuse for offensive acts.


i agree but the problem is people lie this woman are filled with lots of spite and no remorse, there will always be people like it unless those that have any decent moral standing make an exeption of her.

you can see art get destroyed piece by piece everyday by looking at the current 'trends' and music, most of the music 'artists' these days have no talent and get by thanks to those who don't even believe in art as it should be.


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03 Feb 2009, 3:15 pm

I think we should all read the article about Professor Stoddart in the Times Higher (22 January 2009)

In the article he quoted as having said

"The arts jumped in and became dynamic, aggressive, filthy and weird. Artists started to be interested in ferocity, brutalism, dynamism, cubism, speed and fury, which migrated into the world of conduct. Having made ugly objects, modern artists began to make them in an ugly frame of mind and then just became foul-mouthed harridans,"

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... 405050&c=1


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03 Feb 2009, 3:32 pm

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03 Feb 2009, 3:57 pm

Sorry but what has the "get the @£$€ out of my house" got to do with the subject ?


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03 Feb 2009, 4:00 pm

(it's 'offensive' foul-mouthed contemporary art) ...



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03 Feb 2009, 4:03 pm

OK it has a few rude words in it, but it has failed to offend me. It just confused me.

But I am not going to stick that on my wall.


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04 Feb 2009, 1:03 am

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When I first heard that the doctor told the art student to "get a hair cut" I thought he was being offensive, but as soon as I read the story I understand how his staff were being abused. What do you think of this case ?

http://www.thelocal.se/17268/20090130/

I don't understand what he means by cutting hair?


me neither :?



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04 Feb 2009, 3:43 am

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i can see how the above could be classed as art as it represents that people focus more on the offenive words rather than the layout, most people wouldn't realise the extra words that have been doubled.


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04 Feb 2009, 2:42 pm

I missed the extra words when I first read it, but the second time I saw it I spotted the extra words. Has anyone read the article which I posted a link to, and if so what do you think of the article ?


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04 Feb 2009, 6:28 pm

familiar_stranger wrote:
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i can see how the above could be classed as art as it represents that people focus more on the offenive words rather than the layout, most people wouldn't realise the extra words that have been doubled.


extra words and the lack of a space between some words were the first things i noticed *shrugs*



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05 Feb 2009, 4:44 am

I hope she gets seriously punished for this. Mental illness is not at all funny or an 'art project'. I did my art project on Manga for goodness sakes... Does she realise that someone else in REAL need of the services who's time she wasted could have died or seriously harmed themselves or others? It's just pathetic. These 'artists' need to get some real talent or get a job as a cashier. Leave the art to the real artists... :x


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06 Feb 2009, 8:21 am

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I hope she gets seriously punished for this. Mental illness is not at all funny or an 'art project'. I did my art project on Manga for goodness sakes... Does she realise that someone else in REAL need of the services who's time she wasted could have died or seriously harmed themselves or others? It's just pathetic. These 'artists' need to get some real talent or get a job as a cashier. Leave the art to the real artists... :x


There could have been real patients that needed real help. It is no more "art" than hoaxes about false fire alarms. She deserves some time in the can to think about how wrong this is.


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