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26 Feb 2009, 3:26 pm

Andrew Wakefield will be appearing before the GMC Fitness to Practise Panel. The dates are 2 March – 1 May 2009 and the GMC think that the hearing will require 28 days to deal with.

http://www.gmcpressoffice.org.uk/apps/n ... p?key=3225


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26 Dec 2009, 5:38 am

Things seem to be goin a bit more slowly, the GMC think it will still take 25 days but the "Fitness to Practise Panel" is still being done.

http://www.gmc-uk.org/calendar/


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29 Jan 2010, 3:13 pm

The case is now over at least in part

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/70951 ... llous.html


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29 Jan 2010, 5:01 pm

Unfortunately, this flawed data has taken on a life of its own. How do I think this news will be greeted by people convinced that vaccines cause autism? I think it will be greeted with the conviction that this is a conspiracy by Big Pharma to discredit Wakefield. Sigh.



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29 Jan 2010, 5:03 pm

Some reports state that members of the GMC have been getting abused, or having abuse hurled at them...


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02 Feb 2010, 5:45 pm

The Autism Speaks folk, and like minded followers REALLY WANT to believ that there is some environmental cause for AS because that would mean:

* There is a possible cure for their supposed misery and

* There will be somebody to sue for their supposed damages.

If, in contrast, it turns out to be genetic after all (which is where all the good data seems to be pointing), well, that's just hard cheese for them, and they'll just have to cope like the rest of us with bad eyes and flat feet.

Hmmm... maybe I'm nearsighted because of my measles vaccine...



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02 Feb 2010, 8:44 pm

The Lancet 'fully retracts' publication of study linking the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine to autism and bowel disease Medical journal recants 1998 study linking autism to vaccine


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03 Feb 2010, 1:51 pm

Study lanced topic

Bled to death. :twisted:


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03 Feb 2010, 10:32 pm

This man is a serial killer. Plain and simple. Alas, he's not going to get anywhere near what he deserves.


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19 Feb 2010, 4:39 pm

Dr Wakefield has resigned from his autism centre in Austin, Texas.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/ ... ism-centre



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19 Feb 2010, 8:57 pm

philosopherBoi wrote:
I read in Dr. Paul A. Offit's book Autism's False Prophet that he stood to gain a lot of money because of his false research. I can't remember what he was doing to try to get teh money grrrr I am to hungry to remember stupid brain it require refueling :evil:

Most of the parents of the children in the study were suing the vaccine manufacturer, and Dr. Wakefield was working with the lawyer representing the litigants. His "study" was used as evidence in the trial and I assume he received at least expert witness fees. Wakefield no longer practices medicine in his homeland, the United Kingdom, but has a clinic in Austin Texas where he treats Autistic children,Thoughtful House. I have no Idea if he actually practices medicine in Texas, but he is listed as "Registered without a licence to practise" in the GMC's List of Registered Medical Practitioners., but wikipedia lists him as the Executive Director of Thoughtful House Center for Children in Austin, Texas, USA.


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19 Feb 2010, 9:17 pm

The sad thing is that thanks to this study there is now a mafia built on:
* Suing doctors.
* Making up methods to cure autism by chelation therapy or other 'alternative' approaches.

And this mafia is not going to give up now. Their response to this news is basically:
* This is misreporting/conspiracy from big pharma supporters.
* There's still plenty of other fraudulent researches they can use.
* Look at me, I am a porn actress I know better than the people that made the decision.


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09 Apr 2010, 6:36 am

I'm slightly alarmed to see how many people are missing the point about the MMR vaccine.

i completely sympathize with anyone who might see the obvious advantages of vaccines. The reason this vaccine in particular is considered so dangerous is because it is infact 3 vaccines in one. I don't know if anything I cite is so-called hear-say but it seems like the whole reason the vaccine was innovated was that it was cheaper on medical systems and less time consuming. A lot of parents believe that their childrens' autism was a result of either MMR or a rapid succession of innoculations (in too short a space of time): The subsequent issues these parents have raised is "why can't vaccines be spread out over a wider schedule".

The thing is, autism probably is caused by environmental factors (although YES, a large part of it is genetic). I think (if i remeber rightly what i read ) that autism has increased from 1 in 100 to 1 in 60 in the last 40 years. there is increasing belief that gastro-intestinal symptoms are very much linked with autistic traits and behaviours

Okay... maybe the stuff i read really was complete bulls*** propaganda but there seems to be a lot of cases where parents have noticed rapid declines after their kids' jabs (by rapid i mean a few weeks to even hours - loss of eye contact, mood changes, loss of language)

plus remember that classic autistic individuals need 24/7 care (for the rest of their lives!). it's okay for us "higher-end-of-the-spectrum" lot to brag about how "great it is to be individual". I think Polly Tommey put it well that (despite our well intentioned views) "aspergers is NOT the voice of autism": there is higher end and there is lower end; the gap in between in massive.



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09 Apr 2010, 8:48 am

harry_j_83 wrote:
I'm slightly alarmed to see how many people are missing the point about the MMR vaccine.

I am slightly alarmed people who actually do not really know what they are talking about and admit as much see fit to lecture others about this issue when the cost of getting it wrong could be to influence someone to make a mistake that ends their child's life.

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i completely sympathize with anyone who might see the obvious advantages of vaccines. The reason this vaccine in particular is considered so dangerous is because it is infact 3 vaccines in one. I don't know if anything I cite is so-called hear-say but it seems like the whole reason the vaccine was innovated was that it was cheaper on medical systems and less time consuming. A lot of parents believe that their childrens' autism was a result of either MMR or a rapid succession of innoculations (in too short a space of time): The subsequent issues these parents have raised is "why can't vaccines be spread out over a wider schedule".

A lot of people believe all kinds of things. I have an ASD and I did not get the MMR. Did you know that some conditions now vaccinated against can cause Autism like pathology that is distinguishable from Autism only the basis that the cause is injury from disease rather than developmental?

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The thing is, autism probably is caused by environmental factors (although YES, a large part of it is genetic). I think (if i remeber rightly what i read ) that autism has increased from 1 in 100 to 1 in 60 in the last 40 years. there is increasing belief that gastro-intestinal symptoms are very much linked with autistic traits and behaviours

There is no evidence that this is the case. In the first instance, there are no reliable statistics for prevelance rates 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago or even 10 years ago. The only relevant research indicates that prevelance rates are actually stable inter-generationally.

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Okay... maybe the stuff i read really was complete bulls*** propaganda but there seems to be a lot of cases where parents have noticed rapid declines after their kids' jabs (by rapid i mean a few weeks to even hours - loss of eye contact, mood changes, loss of language)

Plenty of parents report this, but how many of them if they are really objective will on further questioning admit that there were signs before the vaccine? Jenny McCarthy is the poster child for "vaccines gave my baby Autism" yet even she admits there were signs before her son was vaccinated.

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plus remember that classic autistic individuals need 24/7 care (for the rest of their lives!). it's okay for us "higher-end-of-the-spectrum" lot to brag about how "great it is to be individual". I think Polly Tommey put it well that (despite our well intentioned views) "aspergers is NOT the voice of autism": there is higher end and there is lower end; the gap in between in massive.

Individuals who need 24 hour care exist in just about any population you could care to mention. The majority of people with Autism do not need 24/7 care, and so if anyone is not "the X of Austim" it would be those who do need such care since they are the exception amongst Autistics rather than the rule. Plus remember that this is actually entirely irrelevant to evaluating the soundness of information about vaccines anyway, and is probably the most fallacious call to authority I have seen this week.