Shooting Spree in Isla Vista, California

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By all means, quote me where I said his were "common views among men."

I literally had to legit shut down all day after reading all the details... When I first heard of the shooting, I also guessed "he probably has aspergers"

It wasn't until today that I learned that it was true.

Some of the things I read on what the PUA or Anti PUA communities have described about Eliot's face as "gay-ish" and stuff like that

Having a gay face is what attract ls gay men (I speak from experience as gay men have hit on me though I clarify I am straight and felt uncomfortable from gay men hitting on me)

It's a sad society we live in indeed.

if you look at other anti women shooters.All their
victims were only women.Elliot killed 4 men,2 women.
Lepine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_L%C3%A9pine
killed 14 female in a college class(he Told all the men to leave)
Sodini http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Colli ... p_shooting
He killed 3 women at women gym class.
both of them only or mostly target women.
Elliot Also target men.He stab 3 of male roommates too.

so we should not believe his own words in his video that he hated women and resented them for not giving him sex, because he killed men too?

do you even know anymore why you are arguing against a discussion of the misogyny/sexism aspect of this crime--or is it just sort of an automatic reaction, like when the doctor taps your knee to check your reflexes?

I don't see any mention of autism or Asperger's in this. Guess we'll see what comes of it.

^^^

He Hated both Gender.Anti women shooter make sure
women are their only target. He hated women,he hated men.

yeah, that's true. it's the hate that is at the bottom of it.

That doesn't change the fact that he blamed women for his problems. Have you seen his manifesto or his last video?

The things I get out of this are: 1) He was a pathetic spoiled brat (did he ever work a day in his life?). 2) He was a void-soul, no heart, no humanity. 3) He was emotionally at about the level of a three year old.

I also see some futility in elaborate social safety schemes. For example, the cops were called in because of the videos, but the cops that visit him are unaware of the videos. It sounded good on paper but was useless in practice.

The elaborate news coverage probably does more to encourage copy-cat shooters then all the other things being blamed.

Well,he different from the other anti women shooter.
One of them(Lepine)told all the men to leave the class
and had only the women stay.Sodni Target
a women's gym class.So,why didn't elliot have
the same shooting pattern as them two men.

This guy seemed to hate everyone, he hated women and men that were more successful than him or had relationships or were good looking. He was a sociopath and narcissist.

It seems clear to me he had a severe narcissistic personality disorder and nothing else.

Granted I'm not his shrink.

No, as he would have been successful at making friends and dating. Neither alone or together do that.

Now, that in addition to the ASD, that's possible, especially narcissism (blaming everything but himself). But, it's not needed.

I recalled he killed the males because they annoyed him with noise and other things. He then killed/targeted women due to his social frustrations with dating.

That's generally a couple of good descriptions for reasons of a murderer with an ASD; obsessing over certain aspects.

Well, geez, I wonder how being kicked, isolated, lonely, misunderstood, and called a killer-in-waiting could drive anyone to kill. Hmmmm.

Notwithstanding-- NO EXCUSE.

Call a hotline. Find something else to do. Stick pins in little dolls. Write hateful diatribes on the Internet (hey, you might pick up advertisers and have yourself a career there).

Don't go around thinking that just because it LOOKS LIKE everyone else has it, life owes it to you.

And DON'T f*****g KILL PEOPLE. Make the choice to NOT DO THAT.

Really. Look-- I am stressed out, full of rage and self-hate, blah blah et cetera et cetera.

I manage to NOT DO THAT.

Manage to NOT DO THAT.

ikr. "Yeah, he wanted to kill all women, and a load of men who he thought would have had sex with women, but was he really sexist? There's just no way to know." [TUMBLEWEED]

And, uh, thanks.




You said there was no need for a feminist response, that I/we/they were "hijacking" the situation. My position is that he was sexist and misogynist, and so a feminist response is warranted, as are other responses.

The skin/behead thing, I hope, is rare. The being angry at and hateful of women because they wouldn't sleep with him, rejected him, and instead went out with men he thought 'jerks' or 'inferior' - the sense of entitlement to women's bodies and affections, and entwined misogyny - is far too f*****g common.




His rage was largely focused on and through women. He wanted to kill women for rejecting him, and men for getting to sleep with the women who rejected him. It didn't go according to his plan - he was unable to gain access to the female-only building as he wanted - and it wasn't confined to a controllable environment, unlike a classroom or gym. Small mercy that his 'mission' was nothing like as succesful as he hoped for, barring any possible copycat cases.