Sam Dubose

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The law says an officer can use "reasonable suspicion" which of course is skin color. Only some naive fool would believe otherwise. I am not saying Kennedy is a fool, but more likely he is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Brown skin + Spanish + (unemployed or low wage work) = likely non-citizen

The other side says that there are not profiling because "brown skin" is just one factor.

No i live in one of the safest neighborhoods in one of the safest cities in this boring-ass state.

I did say drive through.

This guy doesn't sound like a hard-core dealer. It's just weed. it's not even illegal in a few states.

I would want my police to do some actual goddamn police work.

No, they don't say skin color because any such provision would be unconstitutional.

Conventional wisdom is often BS. The Constitution requires equal protection. From time to time the prejudices and passions of the citizens lead them to deprive others of their rights and codify such action in law, but the legal mechanisms specified in the Constitution provide an avenue for correction of those errors. We had slavery, the Chinese Exclusion Act, Anti-Miscegenation laws, Executive Order 9066 and a host of other evil laws, acts and practices that were at one time or another wildly popular and based in "what everybody knows" but still wrong. A variety of legal procedures within the Constitutional framework subsequently corrected those errors and recognized them as errors.

When the provisions of Arizona's bad law are shown to be "racial profiling" in practice, the law will be struck down.

To take this obviously flawed, contentious legislation as the basis of an argument that police should routinely discriminate against some citizens on the basis of race is legally and morally indefensible.

Edit: Of course it's legally defensible to argue in favor of any loathsome crap you want, however immoral. I should have said "for the police to routinely discriminate against some citizens on the basis of race is legally and morally indefensible."

To advocate for such police practice is merely unethical and obscene.

Anyone with half of a brain would know that brown skin Mexicans would be profiled.

That is why the law is called "gray", not black and white.

They gave Arizona a practical solution for catching non-citizens.

They are not idiots; they knew what they were doing, and are not going to overrule themselves and strike it down.




No. It goes on throughout the United States.

Citizens decide the local laws to keep "undesirables" out.

They expect their local police to enforce those laws.

I was living in Virginia about five years ago, and they passed a local housing law to boot out illegal aliens, and sure enough it worked.

Saying "everybody does it" is not an argument that it's ethical and or less than obscene.

Are you seriously saying that laws should be used to discriminate against people with dark skin?
You think that kind of racism is a good thing?