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23 Dec 2020, 5:17 pm

Feyokien wrote:
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I would seem to me that him saying he pities both liberals and conservatives who don't question the what the media tells them, would include conservatives who don't question Fox et al. It's probably hard to see what's actually being said while in "they must be MAGA" mode.


I don't think this is a person you want to defend. They are banned for a while for posts that were extremely inappropriate and are no longer public and that's all I can say on the matter.


No defending, just deciphering that specific post.



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23 Dec 2020, 5:48 pm

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I think if the government mandated that everyone had to have a barcode tattooed on their forehead, millions would comply and turn against those who didn't like it.


74 million, to be precise. It would come with a mandatory MAGA hat, too. They could call it The New Flag, and anyone who resisted was clearly a traitor anyways.

While I'm sure your quip was meant to conjure images of Orwell's 1984, and aimed at "liberals" or "leftists" no doubt, you seem to have mixed up which party is obsessed with worshipping government symbols like flags, or barking about how people "should have complied with the law".



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23 Dec 2020, 6:09 pm

Wearing masks, especially n95, is done to protect oneself and others from a deadly, highly contagious disease.
Refusal to do so jeopardizes people.
People were unhappy by government decision to make seat belts mandatory.
But that rule/law saves lives, and we accept it because we have have all seen the results of wearing them.
Masks, distancing, lockdowns are pretty much all we can do to try to avoid contracting Covid; for concern for others if not fear for ourselves, we need to do it all.


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23 Dec 2020, 6:46 pm

*wear.

And no. It doesn’t bother me one bit to be respectful of other people by masking up in public places & indoor spaces. It’s a mere small addition to the typical “No shirt, no shoes, no service,” And serves a public health purpose.. sooo, yeah, no - no problems here.


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23 Dec 2020, 9:48 pm

The media is not telling anyone to wear masks. They are just reporting what the medical experts are ordering and the state gov deciding to make that order because of the medical experts. They want to end corona and keep it down. Not have a bunch of people get sick and die.

People are not wearing masks because the media is saying so, they are wearing them due to what information that was put out there by doctors.

Now if so many people were not against it, the state would not have had to step in and make this order and having to do shut downs to force social distancing. If it was only some people not taking it so seriously, I dont think we would be in this mess.

The bacode on forehead thing was a weak anology. And a fallacy.


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23 Dec 2020, 11:48 pm

I agree completely.
Well said, League Girl


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24 Dec 2020, 12:02 am

uncommondenominator wrote:
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I think if the government mandated that everyone had to have a barcode tattooed on their forehead, millions would comply and turn against those who didn't like it.


74 million, to be precise. It would come with a mandatory MAGA hat, too. They could call it The New Flag, and anyone who resisted was clearly a traitor anyways.

While I'm sure your quip was meant to conjure images of Orwell's 1984, and aimed at "liberals" or "leftists" no doubt, you seem to have mixed up which party is obsessed with worshipping government symbols like flags, or barking about how people "should have complied with the law".


It's hardly limited to one country. I should have said billions.



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24 Dec 2020, 2:09 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
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I think if the government mandated that everyone had to have a barcode tattooed on their forehead, millions would comply and turn against those who didn't like it.


74 million, to be precise. It would come with a mandatory MAGA hat, too. They could call it The New Flag, and anyone who resisted was clearly a traitor anyways.

While I'm sure your quip was meant to conjure images of Orwell's 1984, and aimed at "liberals" or "leftists" no doubt, you seem to have mixed up which party is obsessed with worshipping government symbols like flags, or barking about how people "should have complied with the law".


It's hardly limited to one country. I should have said billions.


Really? Should you have? Do you even know how much bigger a billion is than a million? Surely you're aware there's "only" 7 billion people on the entire planet. America's population is only about 1/3 of ONE billion. So if "Billions" (plural) of people believe that, as you claim, that's starting to encroach onto half the global population. Casting a pretty wide net, aren't cha?

You are technically right though, that stupidity and ignorance are not an exclusively american phenomenon. There are plenty of people in the world, other than americans, or in addition to amercans, who have no idea what they're talking about, but continue to do so regardless.



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24 Dec 2020, 11:08 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
I think if the government mandated that everyone had to have a barcode tattooed on their forehead, millions would comply and turn against those who didn't like it.


74 million, to be precise. It would come with a mandatory MAGA hat, too. They could call it The New Flag, and anyone who resisted was clearly a traitor anyways.

While I'm sure your quip was meant to conjure images of Orwell's 1984, and aimed at "liberals" or "leftists" no doubt, you seem to have mixed up which party is obsessed with worshipping government symbols like flags, or barking about how people "should have complied with the law".


It's hardly limited to one country. I should have said billions.


Really? Should you have? Do you even know how much bigger a billion is than a million? Surely you're aware there's "only" 7 billion people on the entire planet. America's population is only about 1/3 of ONE billion. So if "Billions" (plural) of people believe that, as you claim, that's starting to encroach onto half the global population. Casting a pretty wide net, aren't cha?

You are technically right though, that stupidity and ignorance are not an exclusively american phenomenon. There are plenty of people in the world, other than americans, or in addition to amercans, who have no idea what they're talking about, but continue to do so regardless.


Where did I say that I was talking about America? You're the one who limited it to America and then further limited it to 74 million American MAGAs. As if the number of MAGAs is limited to only those who voted. As usual you come up with stuff the person you're replying to didn't say, and then proceed to knock it down. One strawman after another.

I wasn't talking about America or MAGAs or Orwell's 1984, you're the one who put that into play and then proceeded to argue against it.

It seems that you either don't understand what someone is saying, or that you prefer to make up stuff that they didn't say.



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25 Dec 2020, 5:36 am

That's enough bickering, thanks.


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26 Dec 2020, 3:13 pm

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The media is not telling anyone to wear masks. They are just reporting what the medical experts are ordering and the state gov deciding to make that order because of the medical experts. They want to end corona and keep it down. Not have a bunch of people get sick and die.

People are not wearing masks because the media is saying so, they are wearing them due to what information that was put out there by doctors.

Now if so many people were not against it, the state would not have had to step in and make this order and having to do shut downs to force social distancing. If it was only some people not taking it so seriously, I dont think we would be in this mess.

The bacode on forehead thing was a weak anology. And a fallacy.


This and this.

It's interesting when it gets framed as "the media" is telling people things, when "the media" is just reporting what they've been told. Things happen, the media finds out and tells people. Kinda how it's always been. As LG said, "The Media" was not telling people to wear masks, DOCTORS were telling people to wear masks, the media was disseminating what doctors were saying.

Related side note, it's weird how people will sometimes say something like "oh yeah? well, you're not a doctor!" - but then when actual doctors say things, those same people (who also are not doctors) will then claim that actual-doctors are biased, and don't know what they're talking about, in a fabulous example of ironic dunning-kruger.

It seems like misrepresenting things as "the media!" said it, is a way of dodging having it (correctly) look like the individual is arguing with the word of a doctor, by portraying it as the word of "the media" instead.



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26 Dec 2020, 7:15 pm

League_Girl wrote:
The media is not telling anyone to wear masks. They are just reporting what the medical experts are ordering and the state gov deciding to make that order because of the medical experts. They want to end corona and keep it down. Not have a bunch of people get sick and die.

People are not wearing masks because the media is saying so, they are wearing them due to what information that was put out there by doctors.

Now if so many people were not against it, the state would not have had to step in and make this order and having to do shut downs to force social distancing. If it was only some people not taking it so seriously, I dont think we would be in this mess.

The bacode on forehead thing was a weak anology. And a fallacy.


I didn't say the media. I said the government.

As for the media, when Dr. Fauci lied about face-masks being ineffective to keep the general public from depleting the current face-mask supply, most people heard/read what Fauci said through the media. So by extension the medea was spreading a lie.

Also if you're going to declare that my analogy was weak and a fallacy, you should explain why.



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26 Dec 2020, 7:32 pm

The media thing was a referenced to peoples claims and I don't remember who said what in this thread. Someone mentioned media and even people out there are saying the media is telling us to wear masks.

The barcode thing is a weak analogy because it is not the same as us having to wear masks in public when stories are enforcing it and other public places. If you think this is the same thing, I don't know what else to tell you, your analogy just tells me more of your mindset than about the medical information medical experts had put out there. It also shows you lack of grasps on reality if you think it's the same as being told to wear some random thing on our foreheads. It's been explained already why we should wear masks and how it helps stop the spread. When people use analogies, it shows me their mindset and how they interpret and see things. I can think of them as delusional or as an idiot, etc. based on their analogy they use because I assume that is how they actually see it.


Now it sounds like you are for masks now based on what you wrote about Dr. Fauci lying. Before, you sounded like you were anti masks and anti covid. :? But you sounded anti covid and anti masks when you used the barecode analogy. So which is it? Did you change your mind?


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26 Dec 2020, 7:35 pm

We are exempt in the UK however I was refused a lift unless I wore one and my mobile hairdresser wouldn't come in as I didnt want to wear one. Its a farce.



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26 Dec 2020, 7:58 pm

League_Girl wrote:
The media thing was a referenced to peoples claims and I don't remember who said what in this thread. Someone mentioned media and even people out there are saying the media is telling us to wear masks.

The barcode thing is a weak analogy because it is not the same as us having to wear masks in public when stories are enforcing it and other public places. If you think this is the same thing, I don't know what else to tell you, your analogy just tells me more of your mindset than about the medical information medical experts had put out there. It also shows you lack of grasps on reality if you think it's the same as being told to wear some random thing on our foreheads. It's been explained already why we should wear masks and how it helps stop the spread. When people use analogies, it shows me their mindset and how they interpret and see things. I can think of them as delusional or as an idiot, etc. based on their analogy they use because I assume that is how they actually see it.


Now it sounds like you are for masks now based on what you wrote about Dr. Fauci lying. Before, you sounded like you were anti masks and anti covid. :? But you sounded anti covid and anti masks when you used the barecode analogy. So which is it? Did you change your mind?


The analogy as you put it was hyperbole. Hyperbole being an exaggerated statement or claim not meant to be taken literally, but used to make a point.

I don't know for sure if Fauci lied then or later claimed that he was lying. What brothers me is that it seems like many go along with what they're told without question.

The second part of my point is that since I am questioning or being critical, then the conclusion is that I must be one of those covidiot anti-maskers.

People are easily controlled when they don't question.



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26 Dec 2020, 8:15 pm

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The second part of my point is that since I am questioning or being critical, then the conclusion is that I must be one of those covidiot anti-maskers.


That is because people question what they disagree with or are critical about what they disagree with. Why be critical or even question if you are in agreement? Normally people are in disagreement until they get enough evidence to be convinced and they are not going to keep arguing against it and be all critical about it.


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