[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.

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18 Dec 2023, 4:36 pm

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My 2 cents worth: This conflict reminds me of a Marvin Gaye song "What's Going On?". .


What's going on is pro-Iranian rebels in Yemen supporting HAMAS are blockading oil shipments
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/ ... king-yemen

This means in addition to Ukraine war you will be paying more for oil at the petrol bowser

And Iran is strutting around the international stage goading western countries, Iran has become the new China in that nobody wants to deal with them. China finances cyber-terrorism, Iran finances terror bombing



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18 Dec 2023, 4:55 pm

to the poster above: you're so full of it - how do you know how and what I feel?



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18 Dec 2023, 5:06 pm

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to the poster above: you're so full of it - how do you know how and what I feel?

I think that making a joke out of terrible world news will often be met with a factual answer from someone with 100% more common sense than you seem to display.



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18 Dec 2023, 5:16 pm

I am not making a joke. Since 1948 most of us have not been directly involved in the Israel-Palestine conflict, or other civil wars around the world.

What we do face is cost of living expenses from these wars and the arrival of refugees to our shores who flee these conflicts and have stories to tell. I am older than most of you and remember many conflicts and many who have suffered.



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18 Dec 2023, 5:21 pm

I was talking to Aspinator. I find your posts current and informative CyberDad



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18 Dec 2023, 5:23 pm

Houthi areas will be reduced to rubbles.



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18 Dec 2023, 6:39 pm

The whole conflict is confusing when it comes to foreign governments.

Ukraine consider HAMAS like Russia
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/ ... -to-russia

Ukraine get's billions of dollars of aid to fight Russia

Zelesnky is a hero to much of the world - here's what he says about Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/zelensky- ... om-terror/



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18 Dec 2023, 9:22 pm

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Houthi areas will be reduced to rubbles.

Houthis aren't Palestinian. They live in Yemen. Are they entitled to their own sovereign state?


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18 Dec 2023, 11:01 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Houthi areas will be reduced to rubbles.

Houthis aren't Palestinian. They live in Yemen. Are they entitled to their own sovereign state?


I think Boo might be referring to the Saudis bombing the Houthis to rubble



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18 Dec 2023, 11:04 pm

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We Went to the ADL's Anti-Semitism Conference and Saw Palestine Activists Compared to Neo-Nazis

10 to 20 years ago, the ADL wasn't (or, at least, didn't appear to be) nearly as bad in this regard as they apparently have gotten recently. Back then, I don't recall them equating anti-Zionism with hatred of Jews, even though they are/were a Zionist organization themselves.

And I distinctly remember, back during the post-9/11 wave of Islamophobia, ADL spoke out against Islamophobia on at least several occasions. They were (or at least came across as) big promoters of interfaith dialogue, if I remember correctly. For example, if I recall correctly, back in 2010 they spoke out against the folks who were panic-mongering about the so-called "ground zero mosque." They also made a big point of opposing and exposing white supremacists, and were much more concerned about neo-Nazis than they apparently are now. They seemed to have taken to heart the famous Niemoller quote.

But then, if I recall correctly, they had a turnover in management, and the new people in charge were much more right wing.


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19 Dec 2023, 1:21 am

^ It would be interesting to go over the history of the ADL.


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19 Dec 2023, 1:33 am

cyberdad wrote:
Aspinator wrote:
My 2 cents worth: This conflict reminds me of a Marvin Gaye song "What's Going On?". .


What's going on is pro-Iranian rebels in Yemen supporting HAMAS are blockading oil shipments
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/ ... king-yemen

This means in addition to Ukraine war you will be paying more for oil at the petrol bowser

And Iran is strutting around the international stage goading western countries, Iran has become the new China in that nobody wants to deal with them. China finances cyber-terrorism, Iran finances terror bombing

Actually "whats going on" is what the late Delores O'Riordan and the Cranberries sang about in their the Eighties song "Zombie" inspired by an IRA bombing in England that killed school kids. The song was about how adults get caught up in tribal cycles of violence for generations and centuries, and the children suffer the most.

HAMAS murders innocent civilians...and it has the desired effect of Israel retaliating by murdering even greater numbers of innocent civilians.



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19 Dec 2023, 2:11 am

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Actually "whats going on" is what the late Delores O'Riordan and the Cranberries sang about in their the Eighties song "Zombie"...


That song came out in 1994, in case you were wondering. </nitpick>


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19 Dec 2023, 4:52 am

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^ It would be interesting to go over the history of the ADL.

Indeed I don't know the full history of the ADL. My remarks earlier in this thread are based on impressions I've gotten from their website at various times over the years.

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Interesting video, but it said nothing about the ADL. Did you mean to post a different video?


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19 Dec 2023, 8:17 am

MaxE wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Houthi areas will be reduced to rubbles.

Houthis aren't Palestinian. They live in Yemen. Are they entitled to their own sovereign state?


The Houthis are just one faction of Yemen, the Iran-backed one.



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19 Dec 2023, 8:21 am

cyberdad wrote:
MaxE wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Houthi areas will be reduced to rubbles.

Houthis aren't Palestinian. They live in Yemen. Are they entitled to their own sovereign state?


I think Boo might be referring to the Saudis bombing the Houthis to rubble


More of a 10+ countries coalition:

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023 ... in-red-sea