[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.
Often the ruling powers on the ground put their hands on the boxes and sell them.
And if it’s cash, it evaporates fast.
This problem makes for both disingenuous and legitimate arguments against opening up safe corridors and pauses in order to do that. Israelis argue that lifting the siege means Hamas does not starve while the residence of Gaza still starve. Hamas retains both the ability to shoot at us and pummel us in the “propaganda war”. Lose Lose for us.
That's a disgusting argument. Surely there are plenty of trustworthy international nonprofit orgs that the aid could be channeled through?
And I thought UNRWA was an independent bureaucracy that kept track of who all the refugees were?
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I read your entire original post. I quoted only the specific parts I was responding to.
Regarding peoples involved in some protests .
Again, are you claiming to know people who were hired? If so, to make sense of your claim, it would be helpful if you could tell me the names of the specific organizations that hired them, and with what job titles.
Privacy Issues , already gave name of the organization,they were a member of .! Seems some type of folk ,even apologies are not adequate .?...?...? ....
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Being a member of the Screen Actors Guild doesn't necessarily imply that every job one gets hired for is an acting job. Given that acting jobs are few and far between, most actors work other kinds of jobs too.
Many of the larger political activist orgs do have paid staff of various kinds. But I'm not aware of any org that hires vast numbers of actors for the specific purpose of faking a large grassroots protest.
The reason I asked about the specific job titles of the people you know is that I am wondering if you might be misinterpreting what they were hired for.
You've made a very serious accusation against what most people believe to be significant and sincere grassroots political protests. That being the case, you should expect to be asked lots and lots of questions about your claim.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-01-02/
Look who’s talking about violation of Lebanon’s sovereignty.
The Reuters article says:
What are your impressions of Lebanon's Sunni Islamist Jama'a Islamiya faction? Are they a substantial group, and what is their relationship to the various other militant groups?
I hope you're okay.
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Being a member of the Screen Actors Guild doesn't necessarily imply that every job one gets hired for is an acting job. Given that acting jobs are few and far between, most actors work other kinds of jobs too.
Many of the larger political activist orgs do have paid staff of various kinds. But I'm not aware of any org that hires vast numbers of actors for the specific purpose of faking a large grassroots protest.
The reason I asked about the specific job titles of the people you know is that I am wondering if you might be misinterpreting what they were hired for.
You've made a very serious accusation against what most people believe to be significant and sincere grassroots political protests. That being the case, you should expect to be asked lots and lots of questions about your claim.
Does it offend your sensibilities that other people have different opinions ??? Or you do not like the implications of what ,that lack of genuine activity on a singular races part might just very well be true .?? Other than throwing mega money at various forms of media ?Or have you been personally to these rallies ? To support Israel ? Yourself ! or any protest ever , ( in Person) .
And by the way am not here to play question and answer games , to suit your conceptual tastes. Different people , whom have different experiences might have perceptions other than your own ! Working in that actual Industry .
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What are your impressions of Lebanon's Sunni Islamist Jama'a Islamiya faction? Are they a substantial group, and what is their relationship to the various other militant groups?
I hope you're okay.
Their differences are laughable, just different shirt colors.
The one thing they have in common with Hamas is that I (and half of Lebanon) want them both ousted from the country.
The one thing they have in common with Hamas is that I (and half of Lebanon) want them both ousted from the country.
What's stopping this from happening? What's stopping the Lebanese government, or perhaps the Beirut city government, from closing down their offices?
Both are a lot smaller than Hezbollah, aren't they? Or are they being protected by Hezbollah?
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The one thing they have in common with Hamas is that I (and half of Lebanon) want them both ousted from the country.
Both are a lot smaller than Hezbollah, aren't they? Or are they being protected by Hezbollah?
Refer to David's posts and to my post/video, they explain well the situation. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=416650&start=1696
Hezbollah, Hamas and Jama'a are all pawns who serve the same funder: Iran.
You should check what happened in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Lebanon_conflict and how it ended, that was the last time government ever tried to take a soverign measure.
Hezbollah is tied ideologically and financially to Iran, while the others only financially.
Yes, these 2 armed groups in Lebanon are protected by Hezbollah. Hezbollah is not the only bad local apple, it has lunatic armed allies:
- Baath: The Lebanese branch of Assad's ruling party. Baath recognizes Lebanon as part of Syria.
- SSNP: A nazi party that believes in a Canaanite Master race (They view Arabs and Jews as inferior), Greater Syria nation (All levent + cyprus) and event part of Turkey. Insects with dreams way bigger than their size.
- Amal: The other Shiite party, funded by the same master dog.
- Arab Democratic Party: Allawites, Assad's sect. All allawites are actually originally Syrians.
- Hamas, Jama'a and other salafist Palestinian armed groups.
A lovely bunch, aren't they.
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Is there any divergence between the Baathists in Iraq (formerly in Iraq, maybe?) and the ones in Syria and Lebanon?
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Yes, they were split ages ago.
So, they're not really same ideologically the same anymore?
(That's what I was trying to ask about, I understand they've been split by nationality since the mid ~60s or so.)
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The one thing they have in common with Hamas is that I (and half of Lebanon) want them both ousted from the country.
Both are a lot smaller than Hezbollah, aren't they? Or are they being protected by Hezbollah?
Refer to David's posts and to my post/video, they explain well the situation. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=416650&start=1696
Hezbollah, Hamas and Jama'a are all pawns who serve the same funder: Iran.
You should check what happened in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Lebanon_conflict and how it ended, that was the last time government ever tried to take a soverign measure.
Hezbollah is tied ideologically and financially to Iran, while the others only financially.
Yes, these 2 armed groups in Lebanon are protected by Hezbollah. Hezbollah is not the only bad local apple, it has lunatic armed allies:
- Baath: The Lebanese branch of Assad's ruling party. Baath recognizes Lebanon as part of Syria.
- SSNP: A nazi party that believes in a Canaanite Master race (They view Arabs and Jews as inferior), Greater Syria nation (All levent + cyprus) and event part of Turkey. Insects with dreams way bigger than their size.
- Amal: The other Shiite party, funded by the same master dog.
- Arab Democratic Party: Allawites, Assad's sect. All allawites are actually originally Syrians.
- Hamas, Jama'a and other salafist Palestinian armed groups.
A lovely bunch, aren't they.
Why do you stay there?
I Think if I were in your shoes I'd have either already left OR had an exit strategy planned and be working towards it.
Far too many lovely neighbours for my liking. And since my frame of reference is in an entirely different part of the world and I know how non-violent-conflicty daily life can be, I'd split. Buuuut if I were born and raised there and never knew what I do, maybe I'd be too Stockholm syndromed to leave. Maybe. Hard to say. But from where I sit here in the far South West corner of Canada in a large kitchen with pancakes & coffee and no bomby-mcbomb-bomb sounds in the background, I Think my goal would be to get to "higher," ground above the low vibrational people warring with each other over age old ideologies.. even near sea level this is a "higher," place to exist in relative peace and about a 0% chance of existing in pieces.
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I Think if I were in your shoes I'd have either already left OR had an exit strategy planned and be working towards it.
Far too many lovely neighbours for my liking. And since my frame of reference is in an entirely different part of the world and I know how non-violent-conflicty daily life can be, I'd split. Buuuut if I were born and raised there and never knew what I do, maybe I'd be too Stockholm syndromed to leave. Maybe. Hard to say. But from where I sit here in the far South West corner of Canada in a large kitchen with pancakes & coffee and no bomby-mcbomb-bomb sounds in the background, I Think my goal would be to get to "higher," ground above the low vibrational people warring with each other over age old ideologies.. even near sea level this is a "higher," place to exist in relative peace and about a 0% chance of existing in pieces.
I've gotta ask, how much civil disruption would it take for you leave your homeland, friends and everything you've ever known?
Would you leave at the first signs, or would you endure some amount of it because you're emotionally (and otherwise) invested in your country and community?
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Immigration isn’t easy if you don’t find an income(s) source that can cover the cost of living of your destination.
My current income can barely cover Dubai for instance.
As you may know, bank savings in Lebanon are now just digits on screen.
Maybe I shall become a nutjob jihadist with an ugly long beard and 2 burqa’ed wives; I heard the UK gov loves to house those scums for some reason.
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