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TheRobotLives wrote:
Mikah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I hear the cross didn't go so well for the one armed bandit...
I heard the same. Perhaps there is hope for the Hero of Kenosha.
That's misleading.
What he said was .. Rittenhouse first pointed his rifle at him, and reloaded, then out of fear of becoming Rittenhouse's next victim, he drew his gun in self-defense, and Rittenhouse shot him.
This sequence seems to be true, since the defense did not contradict it.
The question:
Quote:
It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him
with your gun, now your hands down pointed at him, that he fired, right?
with your gun, now your hands down pointed at him, that he fired, right?
And the answer:
Quote:
Correct
10 Nov 2021, 3:39 am
I hope DeBruin isn't a liberal, he just made a whole bunch of interesting new friends with his testimony:
That particular format and then the upvote button shows the path that meme took to get here, lol.
10 Nov 2021, 3:41 am
Soliloquist wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Mikah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
I hear the cross didn't go so well for the one armed bandit...
I heard the same. Perhaps there is hope for the Hero of Kenosha.
That's misleading.
What he said was .. Rittenhouse first pointed his rifle at him, and reloaded, then out of fear of becoming Rittenhouse's next victim, he drew his gun in self-defense, and Rittenhouse shot him.
This sequence seems to be true, since the defense did not contradict it.
The question:
Quote:
It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him
with your gun, now your hands down pointed at him, that he fired, right?
with your gun, now your hands down pointed at him, that he fired, right?
And the answer:
Quote:
Correct
Correct, and misleading, since it's taken out of context.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This charge seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Imagine if Rittenhouse ran around your town, pointing his rifle at innocent people, and when they pulled out a weapon to try and defend themselves, then he kills the person, and argues .. it was self-defense.
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10 Nov 2021, 4:12 am
TheRobotLives wrote:
Correct, and misleading, since it's taken out of context.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Oh my god, you really are in your own reality, aren't you? Did you not watch the cross of Grossruetz, or the video of the encounter, the same one that was used in the cross, that's been posted here multiple times? Grosskruetz had his gun out when he ran up, it's clear in the video you're clearly refusing to watch, you're making things up on the fly at this point.
Here's a still I extracted from the video where Grosskruetz clearly has his gun out as he runs up on Rittenhouse, as this still is from the exact moment Huber is shot and Grosskruetz is trying to halt his charge:
10 Nov 2021, 4:20 am
10 Nov 2021, 4:24 am
Dox47 wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Correct, and misleading, since it's taken out of context.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Oh my god, you really are in your own reality, aren't you? Did you not watch the cross of Grossruetz, or the video of the encounter, the same one that was used in the cross, that's been posted here multiple times? Grosskruetz had his gun out when he ran up, it's clear in the video you're clearly refusing to watch, you're making things up on the fly at this point.
Here's a still I extracted from the video where Grosskruetz clearly has his gun out as he runs up on Rittenhouse, as this still is from the exact moment Huber is shot and Grosskruetz is trying to halt his charge:
There's also these (featuring excerpts from his testimony at that time):
10 Nov 2021, 4:29 am
Dox47 wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Correct, and misleading, since it's taken out of context.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz with the threat of "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU".
This provoked Grosskreutz to point his pistol at Rittenhouse (self defense).
Then Rittenhouse shot him.
This seems like an easy conviction for the prosecution, since it's not denied that Rittenhouse was pointing his illegally carried weapon at innocent people like Grosskreutz.
Oh my god, you really are in your own reality, aren't you? Did you not watch the cross of Grossruetz, or the video of the encounter, the same one that was used in the cross, that's been posted here multiple times? Grosskruetz had his gun out when he ran up, it's clear in the video you're clearly refusing to watch, you're making things up on the fly at this point.
Here's a still I extracted from the video where Grosskruetz clearly has his gun out as he runs up on Rittenhouse, as this still is from the exact moment Huber is shot and Grosskruetz is trying to halt his charge:
What matters is what was presented to the jury.
In court, Grosskreut stated he did have a gun in his hand, however, it was never pointed at Rittenhouse, until after Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at him, and reloaded.
The defense attorneys did not provide any contradictory proof or arguments that these statements were false.
So, it appears Rittenhouse provoked Grosskreut.
Image if Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at you, and when you react by pointing your weapon at him, he kills you, and argues "it's self defense". No. It would be murder because he provoked you to defend yourself.
10 Nov 2021, 4:49 am
TheRobotLives wrote:
What matters is what was presented to the jury.
In court, Grosskreut stated he did have a gun in his hand, however, it was never pointed at Rittenhouse, until after Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at him, and reloaded.
The defense attorneys did not provide any contradictory proof or arguments that these statements were false.
So, it appears Rittenhouse provoked Grosskreut.
In court, Grosskreut stated he did have a gun in his hand, however, it was never pointed at Rittenhouse, until after Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at him, and reloaded.
The defense attorneys did not provide any contradictory proof or arguments that these statements were false.
So, it appears Rittenhouse provoked Grosskreut.
Please, just say that you're not paying attention, or just want to believe Rittenhouse is guilty facts be damned, this is absurd when that exact video was presented in court, and Grosskruetz admitted under cross examination that Rittenhouse held fire until he, Grosskruetz, did in fact point his gun at Rittenhouse. Here's the image they used in court when he admitted pointing his pistol at Rittenhouse at the moment he was shot:
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