Non-transgender Men Being Allowed In Women's Bathroom!

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I'm not talking to you until you answer my question - Were you calling me Little Miss Hate or not?

I didn't ignore it. I said this will not have an effect on what perverts do. Spying on people in the bathroom is still illegal, nothing changed that. If you want privacy in a public bathroom just use the stalls. And if someone does try to spy on you then they are commiting a crime, it doesn't matter what they are.

Oh and Angela, what's the point of coming on here for a debate if you won't respond to half of what is asked of you?

its more dangerous for trans people to use public restrooms than it is for cis-gendered people to use public restrooms which allow unquestioned gender access because of hateful and fearful people spreading ideas like this argument that the possibility of being violated by someone using the rules for criminal purposes is acceptable grounds for denying trans people the right to express bodily functions in public places like everyone else. imagine what its like to be equated to a criminal for having to pee. this argument in particular is so well constructed that it doesn't directly assume trans people are criminals, just uses criminal activities as a way to justify discriminatory ideas and policies towards trans people.

i would like to share a personal story.
i was at the local gay bar with some friends, and my abusive ex-boyfriend also happened to be there. he tried to approach me a few times in the bar and on the dance floor, and i tried to make as little contact with him as possible while still trying to be nice so as to not provoke him. but eventually i had to pee, so i went into one of the two gender neutral bathrooms at the bar. he followed me into the restroom, cornered me, and touched me inappropriately. if gender neutral bathrooms didn't exist it wouldn't have happened, but then again he could have followed me home from the bar later anyways and done the same thing. i don't blame the gender neutral bathrooms for allowing this event to occur to me, i blame the person. its not fair to use these types of incidents to exclude people who aren't even involved--people who would likely try to help someone if they see them being violated, just like anyone else.

Target's policy (and particularly the loud announcing of it) does make things easier on perverts. A man can walk into a woman's bathroom and hang around in there for quite a while. Before, he would have had to be sneaky about it, and he would risk getting kicked out of the bathroom, the store, and possibly being arrested. Now, not only will women be less likely to report that he's in there, but he faces no repercussions as long as he says he's feeling transsexual at the moment. That means he can get one step closer to his potential victims without risk. He can wait in a small, windowless room for women to come in and drop their pants, nothing separating him from them except a stall that can easily be climbed under or over.
As some have said, transsexual people have probably already been using the bathroom of their choice for years and years. The announcement, to me, serves mainly to let non-trans predators know it's open season.

Ah, Luke, I've never seen a heterosexual man in any of the restrooms or dressing rooms that I have been in, but now I'm just supposed to accept it if it happens because the man could say "oh I'm feeling like a woman today." BS. And, Luke, you can call me racist or whatever new word you want to call me and I don't give a damn. I'm not the one who has the problem even though you want to brainwash everyone into thinking I do.

Also, Luke, I respond to the posts that should be answered - I'm not going to answer people who talk down to me or make fun of me, or call me names etc. or the ones who keep saying my sources are invalid until that same source says something that validates their cause. There, I answered your post, Luke.

I have a vagina and am fine and dandy with anyone using my bathroom. I'm in a stall. I never let my children pee by themselves when they were little anyway. There are just as many scary women as men.
Why werent your panties in a twist sharing the restroom with gay women? Does a penis make you a criminal?
REPEAL HB2 in NC.

I love Target and will shop there more!! !

You're underestimating the effect of this policy, Luke. We, the majority, Luke, are supposed to go along with this policy to cater to the (. 03%) of the transgender population. Hell, my Target may not even see a transgender person this year, Luke, but the majority of the rest of Target customers are supposed to put up with this policy. What a load of crap.

And again, another person who refuses to see the point. My panties weren't in a bind because I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GAY WOMEN!

I do have a problem with HETEROSEXUAL MALES BEING IN MY F'N BATHROOM. What is so difficult to understand?

This is why I'm not answering anymore posts of this nature. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

You know what? I've had time to think over what you are saying here and you are right. Back when I was in that Catholic school and those two girls looked into my bathroom stall - they must have been perverted lesbians. What other reason would there be to watch someone in the bathroom like that? So I believe also that ALL lesbians should be barred along with the heterosexual males from the women's bathroom. I don't get out much and during my life I have had BOTH a heterosexual male and two perverted females watching a peepshow of me in the bathroom. I should be able to do my business without having to worry about this kind of crap. And before you make light of what happened to me, let me just tell you that what those two girls did really bothered me mentally - I can see it happening like it was yesterday and the same with that as*hole guy. So, yes, I'm going to fight so that others don't have to go through that kind of BS just because some guy "thinks he feels like a woman today". Give me an f'n break.

we should not allow anyone to use public restrooms because they could be a pervert pretending to be a cis-gendered heterosexual person.

Could be you or anyone like you.

You clearly do not understand what being transgender is. It is not something that comes and goes on a whim, it's an innate feeling that has been with the person their entire lives.

Oh and Angela just because you believe something doesn't make it the majorities opinion. Here's the heart if it, sometimes in life other people will make you uncomfortable and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. And since this .03 percent of the population will have exactly zero effect on your life so you might as well just learn to live with it. Hell you've been doing it your entire life and I bet you never even thought about it until this came up.

I feel like a majority of people who are against pro-transgender policy don't really know what being transgender is. They think that a man just wakes up and decides to put on a dress and be a woman. The city I live in and many others have equal rights for transgender and nothing bad ever happens, so I don't see where the danger is.

As far as I'm concerned, it's ridiculous for a man to enter a woman's bathroom....period. All sorts of trouble can ensue as a result.

Men have their own bathroom, for chrissakes!

I know, totally!

You know what, Mr. AspE? I actually thought you had changed and stopped calling people names, but I was wrong about you. You know something else? Sly is a 1000x times the man you will ever be.

Don't ever talk to me again and expect an answer.