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26 Aug 2019, 8:11 pm

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Anyone blindly believing what they are told, which includes believing a guy got up at 6am to kill himself and screamed as he hung himself...
More of your distortion and hyperbole. The only screams that could be heard coming from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he was found dead were caused by corrections workers frantically tried to revive him, urging, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe!" -- typical commotion characteristic of attempts to resuscitate an individual who has committed suicide. Only this, and nothing more.



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26 Aug 2019, 8:12 pm

Epstein could have been thoroughly and consummately thinking of his own defense......but then, all of a sudden, decided to just "end it all."



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26 Aug 2019, 10:17 pm

The screams were before the 'suicide'. And there is just too much to just go 'derp derp suicide, mah government never lies'. http://newjersey.news12.com/story/40909 ... ns-officer

It was an 8 foot cell and he was 6 foot. It's outrageous not to be suspicious when he broke multiple bones in his body. If he wanted to kill himself he could have had a drug sneaked in. Also given that he was taken off suicide watch, it's so fishy.


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26 Aug 2019, 11:11 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Anyone blindly believing what they are told, which includes believing a guy got up at 6am to kill himself and screamed as he hung himself...
More of your distortion and hyperbole. The only screams that could be heard coming from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he was found dead were caused by corrections workers frantically tried to revive him, urging, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe!" -- typical commotion characteristic of attempts to resuscitate an individual who has committed suicide. Only this, and nothing more.


That would be shouting not screaming.



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26 Aug 2019, 11:19 pm

And there was "shrieking" too.


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27 Aug 2019, 5:27 am

JohnPowell wrote:
The screams were before the 'suicide'. And there is just too much to just go 'derp derp suicide, mah government never lies'. http://newjersey.news12.com/story/40909 ... ns-officer

It was an 8 foot cell and he was 6 foot. It's outrageous not to be suspicious when he broke multiple bones in his body. If he wanted to kill himself he could have had a drug sneaked in. Also given that he was taken off suicide watch, it's so fishy.
his own lawyers minipulated a psychologist into taking him off suicide watch


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27 Aug 2019, 5:30 am

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And there was "shrieking" too.


I am sure corrections officers do a lot of screaming and shrieking while trying resuscitate someone.



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27 Aug 2019, 7:51 am

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The screams were before the 'suicide'...
The link you provided as "proof" of your claim mentioned nothing about screams, and you are expecting us to simply accept your word as Gospel.

:roll: Get real.

Given the choice between a multiplicity of media sources, legal authorities and medical experts -- all well-educated and trained in their specific professions -- and one lone conspiricist trying to weave a case out of thin air, I'll side with the well-educated and trained experts any day.



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27 Aug 2019, 7:54 am

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Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone blindly believing what they are told, which includes believing a guy got up at 6am to kill himself and screamed as he hung himself...
More of your distortion and hyperbole. The only screams that could be heard coming from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he was found dead were caused by corrections workers frantically tried to revive him, urging, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe!" -- typical commotion characteristic of attempts to resuscitate an individual who has committed suicide. Only this, and nothing more.
That would be shouting not screaming.
Shouting ... screaming ... whatever ... there was a lot of noise being generated as those guards tried to save Epstein's miserable life (and their own miserable jobs as well).



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27 Aug 2019, 8:20 am

Fnord wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone blindly believing what they are told, which includes believing a guy got up at 6am to kill himself and screamed as he hung himself...
More of your distortion and hyperbole. The only screams that could be heard coming from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he was found dead were caused by corrections workers frantically tried to revive him, urging, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe!" -- typical commotion characteristic of attempts to resuscitate an individual who has committed suicide. Only this, and nothing more.
That would be shouting not screaming.
Shouting ... screaming ... whatever ... there was a lot of noise being generated as those guards tried to save Epstein's miserable life (and their own miserable jobs as well).


I got the idea that screaming meant litteral screaming like someone in pain/distress the way it was reported. Although I'm not really into the he was killed theory, I'm willing to consider the possibility.



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27 Aug 2019, 8:29 am

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Fnord wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone blindly believing what they are told, which includes believing a guy got up at 6am to kill himself and screamed as he hung himself...
More of your distortion and hyperbole. The only screams that could be heard coming from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he was found dead were caused by corrections workers frantically tried to revive him, urging, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe!" -- typical commotion characteristic of attempts to resuscitate an individual who has committed suicide. Only this, and nothing more.
That would be shouting not screaming.
Shouting ... screaming ... whatever ... there was a lot of noise being generated as those guards tried to save Epstein's miserable life (and their own miserable jobs as well).
I got the idea that screaming meant literal screaming like someone in pain/distress the way it was reported. Although I'm not really into the he was killed theory, I'm willing to consider the possibility.
While a minuscule possibility may exist, there is absolutely no reasonable way that such a small possibility could be inflated to the level of absolute certainty.



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27 Aug 2019, 8:31 am

Fnord wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Fnord wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone blindly believing what they are told, which includes believing a guy got up at 6am to kill himself and screamed as he hung himself...
More of your distortion and hyperbole. The only screams that could be heard coming from Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell the morning he was found dead were caused by corrections workers frantically tried to revive him, urging, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe!" -- typical commotion characteristic of attempts to resuscitate an individual who has committed suicide. Only this, and nothing more.
That would be shouting not screaming.
Shouting ... screaming ... whatever ... there was a lot of noise being generated as those guards tried to save Epstein's miserable life (and their own miserable jobs as well).
I got the idea that screaming meant literal screaming like someone in pain/distress the way it was reported. Although I'm not really into the he was killed theory, I'm willing to consider the possibility.
While a minuscule possibility may exist, there is absolutely no reasonable way that such a small possibility could be inflated to the level of absolute certainty.


I'd settle for beyond a resonable doubt. Besides it is fun to speculate.



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27 Aug 2019, 8:36 am

why do those who refuse to believe anything about the official account of Epstein's death,now believe the official account that screams were heard.

I mean if you cant trust the autopsy report then why trust reports that screams were heard,not to say I dont believe screams were heard I am just pointing out the hypocracy of the conspiracy theorists


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27 Aug 2019, 8:41 am

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Why do those who refuse to believe anything about the official account of Epstein's death,now believe the official account that screams were heard? ...
Because the gaslighting tactics of conspiracists rely heavily on cherry-picking the facts to support their lies.
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... I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the conspiracy theorists.
Welcome to the team!

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27 Aug 2019, 8:45 am

Fnord wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Why do those who refuse to believe anything about the official account of Epstein's death,now believe the official account that screams were heard? ...
Because the gaslighting tactics of conspiracists rely heavily on cherry-picking the facts to support their lies.
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... I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the conspiracy theorists.
Welcome to the team!

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thanks but Ive been on the team,I have been advocating suicide the whole time and Ive been gaslighted too


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27 Aug 2019, 8:46 am

EzraS wrote:
Fnord wrote:
While a minuscule possibility may exist, there is absolutely no reasonable way that such a small possibility could be inflated to the level of absolute certainty.
I'd settle for beyond a reasonable doubt. Besides it is fun to speculate.
The level of credibility presented in this thread as "evidence" for a conspiracy behind Mr. Epstein's death is so far below the threshold of "reasonable doubt" as to be completely ignored without harm.

Besides, speculation is more appropriate for science-fiction writers like Asimov, Bradbury and Clarke (just saying).

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