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Poor and on Medicaid here.
All my medicine is paid for,no copay.My mental health care is paid for.All my MD visits paid for.Preventive care mammogram and colonoscopy paid for.Free gynecology.
And no hours waiting at ER.When I need to see doctor I get an appointment right away.
Our health care could be better for people who make too much for Medicaid.
But other nations need improvement also.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5826705/

Not sure what you mean by “rationing care.”

Are there waitlists for non emergency surgeries? Yes. A friend has to wait something like 2 years for a knee surgery he Needs. There’s a backlog of almost all surgeries that aren’t critical or emergency and it disrupts lives and the economy as some people are bad enough off that they have to sit at home crippled on disability payments because they’re not well enough to work until a necessary knee or back surgery is completed. But they eventually get it done. It’s not rationed, per say, just backlogged.

But immediate needs are tended to in a timely nature. My sister exploded her foot a couple weeks or so ago. REALLY BADLY. As soon as the swelling was down enough, and because she wasn’t bumped by any emergency surgeries, she had it operated on a couple days ago - put in a couple balls, a few plates, and lots of screws and pins. With a little luck she won’t have to have any of the metal removed or additional surgeries in the future, but she does have a solid year or so of recovery time ahead of her now.

If I go to an emergency room the wait time depends on patient load and priority, like most anywhere in the world. Some hospitals are known for long waits because the local demographic clogs up emergency rooms just because they can and don’t want to wait to go to a clinic or their gp. So if I ever have to go to an Er there are a couple hospitals a farther drive away that are known for short wait times, so I’ll drive the extra 20 mins and then have next to no wait vs potentially all night. In either case, whatever is needed is given. There’s no putting bandaids on compound fractures and pretending that’s good enough or anything like that. People get the medical attention they need and then go on their way without ever seeing a bill.

I don’t know, but I’d wager that the quality of service and timing of procedures is similar to decent healthcare plans in the USA. Perhaps those with top level insurance plans Or the cash to pay out of pocket may receive faster surgery times. But overall peoples’ ailments are treated and no one is doling out bandaids and Tylenol in place of surgery and Physiotherapy. We get a full meal deal, we just sometimes have to wait for it depending on what the ailment or procedure is.

It’s that “got theirs,” so F everyone else mentality that just doesn’t hold any water in Canada. We prefer that Everyone gets, even if it means wait times for non emergency surgeries.

A hernia is urgent.The loop of gut trapped will be deprived of circulation.

A hernia is urgent.The loop of gut trapped will be deprived of circulation.

I have a $50 co-pay should I go to urgent care. A $15 co-pay for a GP visit. A $30 co-pay for a specialist visit. A $250 deductible for hospital care. I have to make sure every doctor I go to is “in network,” though.

I work for The City of New York. I don’t get anything taken out of my check for my health insurance. I’m pretty lucky.

Aye, that’s terrible: but it isn’t a rationing system, it’s the government reducing funding overall when the national insurance fund is in surplus (multi billion pound surplus)...
They’ve also let the roads fall to bits, bankrupted swathes of the education system and reformed the welfare system in a way that has increased homelessness by 40%, and left military veterans starving to death in cold bedsits: file under “currently run by idiots who don’t realise they’re asking for a revolution”.

Canadians Pay A High Price For Free Health Care

I bolded a sentence that alarms me from the 2018 article:

"Last year, Canadian patients forewent $1.9 billion in wages while waiting for medical treatment, according to a report from the Fraser Institute, a Canadian think-tank. Canadian patients face some of the longest waits for care in the industrialized world due to their government-run system’s strict rationing."

Mine hadn't torn through the abdominal wall, it was only bulging but would have broken through with any strenuous lifting so it limited my quality of life as it was.

It's not that the self-employed can't get health insurance in the U.S. They can. The issue is that the cost of health insurance for them is insanely high. It was made that way directly because of Obamacare. That's not some sort of partisan opinion on my part, it's a fact. Someone paying for 100% of their own health insurance can pay upwards of $500/month. For a family of five it can be $20,000 per year.

Someone working for a company that provides group health coverage pays in a range of roughly $100-$150 per month in insurance premiums for a plan that would have a deductible of perhaps $1,500-$2,000 per year.

Goldfish: Which group or groups in the U.S. would favor the Canadian healthcare system?

>Medicaid recipients already receive outstanding and unlimited healthcare for free with wait times nothing like those in Canada. This group wouldn't want to change because they're already getting free coverage and better coverage because they don't have to wait for care.

>Government workers and employees of companies that provide Group Health pay relatively small monthly insurance premiums and generally have low deductibles and wait times nothing like those in Canada. It would be a hard sell for this group (the largest of the three?) because they'd be saving a fairly small amount of money in exchange for far longer wait times for care.

>Self employed pay very high insurance costs but with wait times nothing like those in Canada.

Maybe group three would be receptive?

Why they are holding onto that surplus instead of helping people?
My county road fell off, like really fell off in a landslide and it was weeks before it was fixed.My county is poor and doesn’t have the funds to maintain our roads so I can understand the wait.
But letting roads and services fail with a surplus is awful.