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27 Dec 2020, 6:39 am

No, I don’t believe that. I believe in skepticism. I’ve done substantial research in the sphere of COVID.....from many sources.

The simple fact is that taking a laissez-faire approach to COVID-19 is a harmful thing.

The thing that sways me the most is collaborative anecdotal accounts.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:07 am

You're someone I consider to be pretty sensible. As well as polite.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:12 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.

But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.


The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.


Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist? :?


The thing is, he's not the only epidemiologist on the planet. Over in other countries we aren't particularly invested in this Dr Fauci who we had never heard of before, but we followed the same procedures. Funny that. Maybe epidemiologists agree.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:37 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.

But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.


The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.


Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist? :?


So you'll do absolutely anything he says regarding the virus without an iota of doubt?


They’re asking us (here in Canada, too) to:

Wash our hands
Social distance/keep 6’
Wear a mask to prevent our droplets infecting others
Not to mix households at all here in BC right now - orders extended to January 8th
Etc

These all seem like pretty common sense things to do to prevent the spread of a highly infectious lethal virus. They’re also all pretty simple and relatively easily done. On top of that, doing them are signs of not only intelligent life with a sense of self preservation, but also of respect for others - especially the elderly & immunocompromised.

Why would I doubt any of them? Why wouldn’t I do them? How hard is it to comply with not coughing or sneezing on each other during a viral pandemic?


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27 Dec 2020, 7:38 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
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I think he was being facetious....

COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”


No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...


Your tinfoil hat is showing..


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27 Dec 2020, 7:39 am

Epidemiology is a rather exact science. Not totally exact.....but more exact than most sciences.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:39 am

hurtloam wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.

But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.


The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.


Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist? :?


The thing is, he's not the only epidemiologist on the planet. Over in other countries we aren't particularly invested in this Dr Fauci who we had never heard of before, but we followed the same procedures. Funny that. Maybe epidemiologists agree.


Ding ding ding! 8)

OR maybe it’s a global conspiracy! 8O :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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27 Dec 2020, 7:46 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....

COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”


No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...


Your tinfoil hat is showing..


I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:50 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....

COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”


No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...


Your tinfoil hat is showing..


I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.


I guess you don’t realize that the crap you’re saying is inspired by YouTubers with online degrees in tinfoil hat making & makes you look gullible af for falling for their narrative as they make money from their clickbait, ads, a selling survival gear crap for your doomsday bunker.


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27 Dec 2020, 7:50 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.

But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.


The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.


Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist? :?


So you'll do absolutely anything he says regarding the virus without an iota of doubt?


They’re asking us (here in Canada, too) to:

Wash our hands
Social distance/keep 6’
Wear a mask to prevent our droplets infecting others
Not to mix households at all here in BC right now - orders extended to January 8th
Etc

These all seem like pretty common sense things to do to prevent the spread of a highly infectious lethal virus. They’re also all pretty simple and relatively easily done. On top of that, doing them are signs of not only intelligent life with a sense of self preservation, but also of respect for others - especially the elderly & immunocompromised.

Why would I doubt any of them? Why wouldn’t I do them? How hard is it to comply with not coughing or sneezing on each other during a viral pandemic?


You're deflecting, that's not what I asked.



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27 Dec 2020, 7:52 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.

But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.


The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.


Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist? :?


So you'll do absolutely anything he says regarding the virus without an iota of doubt?


They’re asking us (here in Canada, too) to:

Wash our hands
Social distance/keep 6’
Wear a mask to prevent our droplets infecting others
Not to mix households at all here in BC right now - orders extended to January 8th
Etc

These all seem like pretty common sense things to do to prevent the spread of a highly infectious lethal virus. They’re also all pretty simple and relatively easily done. On top of that, doing them are signs of not only intelligent life with a sense of self preservation, but also of respect for others - especially the elderly & immunocompromised.

Why would I doubt any of them? Why wouldn’t I do them? How hard is it to comply with not coughing or sneezing on each other during a viral pandemic?


You're deflecting, that's not what I asked.


Wtf else are they asking people to do besides their part to prevent the spread of a novel virus that’s killing people? :roll:

Oh, I did forget one thing: Yes, I will get vaccinated ASAP. It’s the scientific “out,” of this whole viral pandemic mess.


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27 Dec 2020, 7:56 am

goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....

COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”


No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...


Your tinfoil hat is showing..


I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.


I guess you don’t realize that the crap you’re saying is inspired by YouTubers with online degrees in tinfoil hat making & makes you look gullible af for falling for their narrative as they make money from their clickbait, ads, a selling survival gear crap for your doomsday bunker.


All I've been saying is it's sensible to be willing to question things. Krafie understood that and agreed with me. I guess he's part of the tinfoil hat brigade too eh? See you're objecting to anyone applying any scrutiny, because that's what I've been talking about. I say people should be willing to scrutinize and you flame me because that seems to be an outlandish idea to you.



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27 Dec 2020, 8:05 am

hurtloam wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.

But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.


The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.


Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist? :?


The thing is, he's not the only epidemiologist on the planet. Over in other countries we aren't particularly invested in this Dr Fauci who we had never heard of before, but we followed the same procedures. Funny that. Maybe epidemiologists agree.


That's a good point, but for whatever reason Fauci seems to be the only one ever mentioned here, even by those outside the US.



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27 Dec 2020, 8:11 am

Tempus Fugit wrote:
That's a good point, but for whatever reason Fauci seems to be the only one ever mentioned here, even by those outside the US.

I believe it's a phenomenon of "the face of..." - often one person is assigned a "face" of some organization, group, community, etc.
Social phenomenon.


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27 Dec 2020, 8:16 am

magz wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
That's a good point, but for whatever reason Fauci seems to be the only one ever mentioned here, even by those outside the US.

I believe it's a phenomenon of "the face of..." - often one person is assigned a "face" of some organization, group, community, etc.
Social phenomenon.


Yep, I really have no idea who any of the other chief epidemiologists around the world are, but I could draw a pretty good picture of Fauci right now.

If I had the talent to draw well that is.



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27 Dec 2020, 8:23 am

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It's amazing how on this forum there are those who launch into flame mode because they've arbitrarily decided someone is one of those alt-right MAGA nutjob types. They don't even give it a second thought. I really don't know why I keep coming back to this, when there's other forums I'm on where this sort of behaviour is not what's to be expected. Logging out.