What are the odds of this being another William Freund?

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01 Nov 2005, 8:45 am

slash-dot is a VERY popular site for people in the IT/computer world. To be slash-dotted is to be mentioned on that site. One of Alex's interviews was mentioned and a ton a people came here for a few days. Duncvis probably remembers better but I'll bet we had 1,000 on line at a time.

I thought the LA Times article was good.

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01 Nov 2005, 9:00 am

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There are probably a few sentences I would nit pick, just like some of you had. There was one where he refferred to aspergers as a "disease", which seems not only kind of demeaning like other terms, but probably not even medically accurate to begin with (anybody want to weigh in).I also didn't like the way he dotted his I's and crossed his T's, quite offensive. j/k

I suppose because Asperger's is mentioned in the article, that means it paints it in a negative light or whatever, but I really didn't think this particular case, considering the actual reality pertaining to it, was that bad.

Another point to realize is that my talking to him didn't seem to give that much information. All of the postings quoted were ones that they were able to find themselves, and, to be honest, I think this article tells a much better story than the kind of thing we've seen in the past with stories like this (e.g. "Oh, by the way, the killer had Aspergers!"). In a strange sense, the article portrays Freund in a kind of good light. I mean, this guy killed two (as far as we know) innocent people. It's good that they took a little time to go back and read some of the things he had said, try to understand the guy, go a bit deeper into the case.

I very much agree. The article was well written with compassion and respect. It is so good to see this type of reporting. It gives me hope.

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01 Nov 2005, 9:36 am

Well, I'm off to buy a copy of todays LA Times and make copys.
I suppose I should get to work early and write a letter to my principle on this.
As some may know, I work for a private school in the Los Angeles area dealing mostly with kids on the spectrum. I'll bet the administrators and counselors are scrambling this morning to put together a response to this. I was thinking about pulling my principle aside yesterday and giving her a heads up, but I thought I would let everyone enjoy Halloween. I guess I should have given what she is going to wake up to this morning.

Vetivert, I would be happy to help as best I can.

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01 Nov 2005, 9:45 am

Grr, now I'm afraid some of the cynical responses to me talking to the press may have been right.

I don't think there will be any more investigative reporting -- people are basically just quoting the LA Times in their own articles and being more simplistic and stuff. The AP just wrote another article. In any case, this'll probably blow over in a few days.

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01 Nov 2005, 10:01 am

Sorry to hear that. Although I expected it, it's still disappointing.

Do you have any links? I'd like to see them for myself.

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01 Nov 2005, 10:09 am

From the Associated Press website

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/ ... TE=DEFAULT

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01 Nov 2005, 10:27 am

Even quite smart people reading that might jump to the wrong conclusions. Notice how all the sensitive, thoughtful stuff has been dropped?

I'm sure you thought you were doing the right thing Dan, but people reading this report who know nothing about Asperger's are almost certain to get the wrong idea.

Still, it could be worse... they could have confused WP with the pro-suicide site...

*edit: just noticed we have over 760 vistors right now, no prizes for guessing why, mind your language folks!*

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01 Nov 2005, 10:29 am

I thought both articles were ok, on the whole they got their facts right and so far there has been no knee-jerk reaction as of yet.

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01 Nov 2005, 10:33 am

eamonn wrote:

I thought both articles were ok, on the whole they got their facts right and so far there has been no knee-jerk reaction as of yet.

Yeah, and I pray it stays that way. I'm really fighting the urge to be any more cynical about this, I guess I've made my feelings known.

::shrugs::

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01 Nov 2005, 10:36 am

*reads article*

Oh yep, that's right everybody, Asperger's Syndrome is an Autism-LIKE disorder... :roll:

*insert journalist's brain here...*

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01 Nov 2005, 10:46 am

eyeenteepee wrote:

*edit: just noticed we have over 760 vistors right now, no prizes for guessing why, mind your language folks!*

Oh no! My evil plans!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !

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01 Nov 2005, 10:49 am

Hooray for the Members Only forum!

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01 Nov 2005, 10:51 am

Haha, a new member has joined that is online right now called "SCRIBE". If this is undercover work, then he/she needs to polish up the routine. :lol:

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01 Nov 2005, 10:52 am

eamonn wrote:

Haha, a new member has joined that is online right now called "SCRIBE".

LOL! At least they're being honest!

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01 Nov 2005, 11:06 am

I'm going to find it hard to hide only in the members only forum.

This growing number is scaring me a bit.

I still don't know what to make of this whole situation.

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01 Nov 2005, 11:22 am

I don't like it either. I may go over to "The Other Place" if this continues ahem.

(link withheld for obvious reasons)

2140 vistors and counting...

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