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27 Aug 2019, 8:49 am

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Welcome to the team!
Thanks, but I've been on the team, I have been advocating suicide the whole time and I've been gaslighted too.
No disagreement there. We've all been the targets of gaslighting attempts by the same small group.



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27 Aug 2019, 10:22 am

There is always shrieking and yelling in jails.It’s not a quiet place.


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27 Aug 2019, 10:28 am

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There is always shrieking and yelling in jails. It's not a quiet place.
You can't even tell where a source of the noise is, unless you are standing right next to one.

(When I first got out of the Navy, I applied for a few prison guard jobs. Touring the facilities was more than I could handle, what with all of the screaming, yelling and shouting going on everywhere around me.)



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27 Aug 2019, 10:33 am

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There is always shrieking and yelling in jails. It's not a quiet place.
You can't even tell where a source of the noise is, unless you are standing right next to one.

(When I first got out of the Navy, I applied for a few prison guard jobs. Touring the facilities was more than I could handle, what with all of the screaming, yelling and shouting going on everywhere around me.)

It echos,my bio-mom was a CO in two of the men’s max units here.It never quiets down,hollering all night long.


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27 Aug 2019, 10:41 am

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There is always shrieking and yelling in jails. It's not a quiet place.
You can't even tell where a source of the noise is, unless you are standing right next to one. (When I first got out of the Navy, I applied for a few prison guard jobs. Touring the facilities was more than I could handle, what with all of the screaming, yelling and shouting going on everywhere around me.)
It echos,my bio-mom was a CO in two of the men’s max units here.It never quiets down,hollering all night long.
Yep, pure pandemonium.



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27 Aug 2019, 11:05 am

Fnord wrote:
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There is always shrieking and yelling in jails. It's not a quiet place.
You can't even tell where a source of the noise is, unless you are standing right next to one.

(When I first got out of the Navy, I applied for a few prison guard jobs. Touring the facilities was more than I could handle, what with all of the screaming, yelling and shouting going on everywhere around me.)


That's an experience most people don't get (hopefully).

I have a friend who used to be a probation officer (parole officer in the US?). He told me some interesting things.


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27 Aug 2019, 11:13 am

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The screams were before the 'suicide'...
The link you provided as "proof" of your claim mentioned nothing about screams, and you are expecting us to simply accept your word as Gospel.

:roll: Get real.

Given the choice between a multiplicity of media sources, legal authorities and medical experts -- all well-educated and trained in their specific professions -- and one lone conspiricist trying to weave a case out of thin air, I'll side with the well-educated and trained experts any day.


There's no proof that the screaming and shrieking came from the officers. That's your own emphasis. https://www.google.com/amp/s/lawandcrim ... ficer/amp/

Not thin air and hardly anyone outside the lying mainstream media believes he killed himself. They just cover for power every time.


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27 Aug 2019, 11:16 am

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why do those who refuse to believe anything about the official account of Epstein's death,now believe the official account that screams were heard.

I mean if you cant trust the autopsy report then why trust reports that screams were heard,not to say I dont believe screams were heard I am just pointing out the hypocracy of the conspiracy theorists


It's cause you get some cracks in the mainstream media. Like how the media reported about the truck bombs on the George Washington Bridge on 9/11 and the explosions in the base and the men in the van arrested with traces of explosives in their van and then never mentioned it again.


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27 Aug 2019, 11:22 am

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It's cause you get some cracks in the mainstream media. Like how the media reported about the truck bombs on the George Washington Bridge on 9/11 and the explosions in the base and the men in the van arrested with traces of explosives in their van and then never mentioned it again.
Irrelevant "Red Herring" to the subject of this thread, especially since a search for "George Washington Bridge 9/11" turned up 1,950,000 results.

:roll: "Never mentioned again", huh?



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27 Aug 2019, 12:25 pm

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The screams were before the 'suicide'...
The link you provided as "proof" of your claim mentioned nothing about screams, and you are expecting us to simply accept your word as Gospel.Get real.Given the choice between a multiplicity of media sources, legal authorities and medical experts -- all well-educated and trained in their specific professions -- and one lone conspiricist trying to weave a case out of thin air, I'll side with the well-educated and trained experts any day.
There's no proof that the screaming and shrieking came from the officers. That's your own emphasis. Not thin air and hardly anyone outside the lying mainstream media believes he killed himself. They just cover for power every time.
Why should any reasonable person believe you over the experts? You are just one person, quoting third-rate tabloids and twisting the truth to suit your own goals.



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27 Aug 2019, 12:38 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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why do those who refuse to believe anything about the official account of Epstein's death,now believe the official account that screams were heard.

I mean if you cant trust the autopsy report then why trust reports that screams were heard,not to say I dont believe screams were heard I am just pointing out the hypocracy of the conspiracy theorists


It's cause you get some cracks in the mainstream media. Like how the media reported about the truck bombs on the George Washington Bridge on 9/11 and the explosions in the base and the men in the van arrested with traces of explosives in their van and then never mentioned it again.
I was in New York for business september 12th 2001 and I dont recall the George washington bridge being closed.which it would have been if someone tried to bomb it.I dont remember if i crossed the G.W or not that day or not,I know I was in the bronx and had been in new jersey that day as well so I can only Imagine that I did cross the G.W that day.how else could I have gotten from I80 in new jersey to the bronx N.Y.

To make a short story long,no one had truck bombs in the George washington Bridge on 9-11


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27 Aug 2019, 12:47 pm

Fnord wrote:
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Welcome to the team!
Thanks, but I've been on the team, I have been advocating suicide the whole time and I've been gaslighted too.
No disagreement there. We've all been the targets of gaslighting attempts by the same small group.


Thinking you are being gaslighted means you are going crazy.



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27 Aug 2019, 12:49 pm

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To make a short story long,no one had truck bombs in the George Washington Bridge on 9-11
The more insistent the tabloids and conspiricist websites are regarding the alleged event, the more likely it is all made up. Sure, over a million 'hits' on a Google search, but none of them are mainstream and none have any proof of claim.



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27 Aug 2019, 12:56 pm

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Thinking you are being gaslighted means you are going crazy.
Just because you have paranoia doesn't mean that someone isn't out to get you.


Perhaps it is a Catch-22 situation.

I like Thompson's quote too - There is no such thing as paranoia. Your worst fears can come true at any moment.



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27 Aug 2019, 1:10 pm

Why are you guys still debating this?
You're never going to meet in the middle.
Why bother wasting so much energy?

Some people are government worshipers and believe everything they say, some people are government haters and think they lie about everything and there's a tiny percentage of citizens who think it's somewhere in between. We used to be the voters before MTV went on a marketing campaign to get the shallowest and least intelligent people in our country to "get out and vote."

Seriously, go do something else. There's nothing to be gained here. :)



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27 Aug 2019, 1:24 pm

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Why are you guys still debating this? You're never going to meet in the middle. Why bother wasting so much energy?
For me, it's an exercise in secular apologetics. Gotta stay sharp for the upcoming 2020 election cycle!
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Some people are government worshipers and believe everything they say, some people are government haters and think they lie about everything and there's a tiny percentage of citizens who think it's somewhere in between...
And then some people want to assert, by expression or implication, that Israel and "the Jews" were behind an alleged attempt to attack the George Washington Bridge on September 11, 2001 with a truck full of explosives. Of course, not only is this a false assertion (the alleged attack never occurred), but it is a racist assertion, as well.
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Seriously, go do something else...
Seriously, get over yourself. You do not own this website, nor are you a moderator. If that ever changes, then please lock this thread.

Seriously.