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goldfish21
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27 Dec 2020, 11:49 am
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...
Your tinfoil hat is showing..
I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.
I guess you don’t realize that the crap you’re saying is inspired by YouTubers with online degrees in tinfoil hat making & makes you look gullible af for falling for their narrative as they make money from their clickbait, ads, a selling survival gear crap for your doomsday bunker.
All I've been saying is it's sensible to be willing to question things. Krafie understood that and agreed with me. I guess he's part of the tinfoil hat brigade too eh? See you're objecting to anyone applying any scrutiny, because that's what I've been talking about. I say people should be willing to scrutinize and you flame me because that seems to be an outlandish idea to you.
I asked you what your credentials were to question the guidance of epidemiologists trying to save lives during a viral pandemic & surprise surprise, you never responded.
OF COURSE it’s outlandish of you to question their expertise vs just do the very simple mitigation measures they’ve advised.
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27 Dec 2020, 11:56 am
Tempus Fugit wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Oh yeah, now I remember. He was telling people to not buy masks and that they don't protect you from the virus. I remember there were shortages on masks and now we don't have that problem anymore. That is because companies started making them now as fashion and public places started to provide them to people who don't have a mask. People also started to make them to sell them online. I bought a pair for my kids on ebay. I also found some Unicorn ones for my daughter at Ross.
But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.
But this was at the very beginning when the pandemic started and we know more now.
The point I was trying to make is that I don't know for sure why he did a 180 on that. I know the explanation he gave, but I don't know for sure how truthful it is. Wearing facemasks doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the notion that we're supposed to have 100% trust in what we're being told.
Who tf else are you going to trust to give you information during a global pandemic besides your country’s top doctor/epidemiologist?
The thing is, he's not the only epidemiologist on the planet. Over in other countries we aren't particularly invested in this Dr Fauci who we had never heard of before, but we followed the same procedures. Funny that. Maybe epidemiologists agree.
That's a good point, but for whatever reason Fauci seems to be the only one ever mentioned here, even by those outside the US.
Our Dr. Bonnie Henry here in B.C. has also made international news headlines for her handling of the pandemic. She was called the Doctor who aced the coronavirus pandemic by the NYT.
Fauci is making headlines because the USA is the most influential country on the planet & is being led by an orange buffoon who’s directly contradicting his government’s top epidemiologist during a viral pandemic and as a result more than 300,000 American citizens have died.
Plus the USA broadcasts a whole lot more moving pictures to the world than any other country it seems - especially while all eyes are on the orange buffoon for his crazy lies about winning the election & his mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic.
It should be really really REALLY obvious why everyone has heard of Fauci and most have no idea who Dr. Tam is.
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27 Dec 2020, 1:39 pm
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27 Dec 2020, 2:02 pm
The American economy wouldn’t be such a mess if governing leaders and citizens alike listened to & followed the guidance of experts like Fauci. They didn’t, so, this is their own making.
Follow instructions. Stay safe. Respect others. Don’t spread covid. It’s not that difficult. Almost the entire rest of the world is doing it.
And I couldn’t care less about some whiner whining about wanting to hangout and drink with their buddies or whatever other social crap they’re mistaking for a Need. Too bad. Tough it out and wait another handful of months or so until people are vaccinated. Science doesn’t care if you miss hanging out with your drinking buddies or w/e.
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27 Dec 2020, 3:01 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...
Your tinfoil hat is showing..
I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.
I guess you don’t realize that the crap you’re saying is inspired by YouTubers with online degrees in tinfoil hat making & makes you look gullible af for falling for their narrative as they make money from their clickbait, ads, a selling survival gear crap for your doomsday bunker.
All I've been saying is it's sensible to be willing to question things. Krafie understood that and agreed with me. I guess he's part of the tinfoil hat brigade too eh? See you're objecting to anyone applying any scrutiny, because that's what I've been talking about. I say people should be willing to scrutinize and you flame me because that seems to be an outlandish idea to you.
I asked you what your credentials were to question the guidance of epidemiologists trying to save lives during a viral pandemic & surprise surprise, you never responded.
OF COURSE it’s outlandish of you to question their expertise vs just do the very simple mitigation measures they’ve advised.
Off Topic
As you probably know I basically side with the experts and not the it is overblown and the let people enjoy life because weak losers are going to die anyway, let herd immunity do its thing schools of thought.
But it is fine to not take what experts say at 100 percent face value. Do that with the understanding that they have a much better chance of being right then you. They are not 100 percent right. It was both expert opinion and common sense that the earth was flat at one point. And we can go on and on about different false expert consensus about autism.
Speaking of autism our “different” way of thinking can make us see things the experts miss. We had amateurs here seeing the value of masking up and aerosol infections before experts started discussing them publicly. Remember though the opposite is also true.
Since the coronavirus is new the experts are not so expert yet. This naturally means expert consensus will change. In the current American political climate this has gone beyond healthy skepticism and has led validity to the widespread belief that covid is either fake news or is being used to impose permanent draconian controls which has led to the unfolding calamity and might lead to the pandemic being over in the rest of the world but still a factor in America because people do not take the vaccine. Let America be a lesson to leaders in other countries about taking actions that lead to cynicism in your population.
Those in favor of the expert consensus would do everyone a favor and stop dismissing mitigation efforts as just an inconvenience. A messed up economy and mental health damage to NT’s of not getting the socialization they require is a lot more then inconvenience.
But it is fine to not take what experts say at 100 percent face value. Do that with the understanding that they have a much better chance of being right then you. They are not 100 percent right. It was both expert opinion and common sense that the earth was flat at one point. And we can go on and on about different false expert consensus about autism.
Speaking of autism our “different” way of thinking can make us see things the experts miss. We had amateurs here seeing the value of masking up and aerosol infections before experts started discussing them publicly. Remember though the opposite is also true.
Since the coronavirus is new the experts are not so expert yet. This naturally means expert consensus will change. In the current American political climate this has gone beyond healthy skepticism and has led validity to the widespread belief that covid is either fake news or is being used to impose permanent draconian controls which has led to the unfolding calamity and might lead to the pandemic being over in the rest of the world but still a factor in America because people do not take the vaccine. Let America be a lesson to leaders in other countries about taking actions that lead to cynicism in your population.
Those in favor of the expert consensus would do everyone a favor and stop dismissing mitigation efforts as just an inconvenience. A messed up economy and mental health damage to NT’s of not getting the socialization they require is a lot more then inconvenience.
Wearing masks were very uncomfortable at first. i never got used to but it became noticeably less difficult. Recently it has become noticeably more difficult, pandemic fatigue I assume.
IF that’s a quote from Tempus Fugit and s/he can’t figure out why they’re getting flamed then perhaps they need to re-evaluate the flame-bait crap they’re posting.. questioning public health orders from the world’s top epidemiologists during a viral pandemic.
Hopefully they at least had some shortbread rolled out or something so they can enjoy some freshly flame baked seasonal goodness.
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27 Dec 2020, 4:03 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...
Your tinfoil hat is showing..
I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.
I guess you don’t realize that the crap you’re saying is inspired by YouTubers with online degrees in tinfoil hat making & makes you look gullible af for falling for their narrative as they make money from their clickbait, ads, a selling survival gear crap for your doomsday bunker.
All I've been saying is it's sensible to be willing to question things. Krafie understood that and agreed with me. I guess he's part of the tinfoil hat brigade too eh? See you're objecting to anyone applying any scrutiny, because that's what I've been talking about. I say people should be willing to scrutinize and you flame me because that seems to be an outlandish idea to you.
I asked you what your credentials were to question the guidance of epidemiologists trying to save lives during a viral pandemic & surprise surprise, you never responded.
OF COURSE it’s outlandish of you to question their expertise vs just do the very simple mitigation measures they’ve advised.
Off Topic
As you probably know I basically side with the experts and not the it is overblown and the let people enjoy life because weak losers are going to die anyway, let herd immunity do its thing schools of thought.
But it is fine to not take what experts say at 100 percent face value. Do that with the understanding that they have a much better chance of being right then you. They are not 100 percent right. It was both expert opinion and common sense that the earth was flat at one point. And we can go on and on about different false expert consensus about autism.
Speaking of autism our “different” way of thinking can make us see things the experts miss. We had amateurs here seeing the value of masking up and aerosol infections before experts started discussing them publicly. Remember though the opposite is also true.
Since the coronavirus is new the experts are not so expert yet. This naturally means expert consensus will change. In the current American political climate this has gone beyond healthy skepticism and has led validity to the widespread belief that covid is either fake news or is being used to impose permanent draconian controls which has led to the unfolding calamity and might lead to the pandemic being over in the rest of the world but still a factor in America because people do not take the vaccine. Let America be a lesson to leaders in other countries about taking actions that lead to cynicism in your population.
Those in favor of the expert consensus would do everyone a favor and stop dismissing mitigation efforts as just an inconvenience. A messed up economy and mental health damage to NT’s of not getting the socialization they require is a lot more then inconvenience.
But it is fine to not take what experts say at 100 percent face value. Do that with the understanding that they have a much better chance of being right then you. They are not 100 percent right. It was both expert opinion and common sense that the earth was flat at one point. And we can go on and on about different false expert consensus about autism.
Speaking of autism our “different” way of thinking can make us see things the experts miss. We had amateurs here seeing the value of masking up and aerosol infections before experts started discussing them publicly. Remember though the opposite is also true.
Since the coronavirus is new the experts are not so expert yet. This naturally means expert consensus will change. In the current American political climate this has gone beyond healthy skepticism and has led validity to the widespread belief that covid is either fake news or is being used to impose permanent draconian controls which has led to the unfolding calamity and might lead to the pandemic being over in the rest of the world but still a factor in America because people do not take the vaccine. Let America be a lesson to leaders in other countries about taking actions that lead to cynicism in your population.
Those in favor of the expert consensus would do everyone a favor and stop dismissing mitigation efforts as just an inconvenience. A messed up economy and mental health damage to NT’s of not getting the socialization they require is a lot more then inconvenience.
Wearing masks were very uncomfortable at first. i never got used to but it became noticeably less difficult. Recently it has become noticeably more difficult, pandemic fatigue I assume.
IF that’s a quote from Tempus Fugit and s/he can’t figure out why they’re getting flamed then perhaps they need to re-evaluate the flame-bait crap they’re posting.. questioning public health orders from the world’s top epidemiologists during a viral pandemic.
Hopefully they at least had some shortbread rolled out or something so they can enjoy some freshly flame baked seasonal goodness.
That is my personal experience with mask wearing.
27 Dec 2020, 4:23 pm
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27 Dec 2020, 5:06 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think he was being facetious....
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
COVID is not some paranoiac vision conjured up by the “Deep State.”
No but apparently for some the idea of questioning or having any kind of a problem with anything we're being told, amounts to someone being paranoid, idiotic, insane, perhaps even criminal...
Your tinfoil hat is showing..
I guess you don't realize that you keep giving validity to what I'm saying.
I guess you don’t realize that the crap you’re saying is inspired by YouTubers with online degrees in tinfoil hat making & makes you look gullible af for falling for their narrative as they make money from their clickbait, ads, a selling survival gear crap for your doomsday bunker.
All I've been saying is it's sensible to be willing to question things. Krafie understood that and agreed with me. I guess he's part of the tinfoil hat brigade too eh? See you're objecting to anyone applying any scrutiny, because that's what I've been talking about. I say people should be willing to scrutinize and you flame me because that seems to be an outlandish idea to you.
I asked you what your credentials were to question the guidance of epidemiologists trying to save lives during a viral pandemic & surprise surprise, you never responded.
OF COURSE it’s outlandish of you to question their expertise vs just do the very simple mitigation measures they’ve advised.
Off Topic
As you probably know I basically side with the experts and not the it is overblown and the let people enjoy life because weak losers are going to die anyway, let herd immunity do its thing schools of thought.
But it is fine to not take what experts say at 100 percent face value. Do that with the understanding that they have a much better chance of being right then you. They are not 100 percent right. It was both expert opinion and common sense that the earth was flat at one point. And we can go on and on about different false expert consensus about autism.
Speaking of autism our “different” way of thinking can make us see things the experts miss. We had amateurs here seeing the value of masking up and aerosol infections before experts started discussing them publicly. Remember though the opposite is also true.
Since the coronavirus is new the experts are not so expert yet. This naturally means expert consensus will change. In the current American political climate this has gone beyond healthy skepticism and has led validity to the widespread belief that covid is either fake news or is being used to impose permanent draconian controls which has led to the unfolding calamity and might lead to the pandemic being over in the rest of the world but still a factor in America because people do not take the vaccine. Let America be a lesson to leaders in other countries about taking actions that lead to cynicism in your population.
Those in favor of the expert consensus would do everyone a favor and stop dismissing mitigation efforts as just an inconvenience. A messed up economy and mental health damage to NT’s of not getting the socialization they require is a lot more then inconvenience.
But it is fine to not take what experts say at 100 percent face value. Do that with the understanding that they have a much better chance of being right then you. They are not 100 percent right. It was both expert opinion and common sense that the earth was flat at one point. And we can go on and on about different false expert consensus about autism.
Speaking of autism our “different” way of thinking can make us see things the experts miss. We had amateurs here seeing the value of masking up and aerosol infections before experts started discussing them publicly. Remember though the opposite is also true.
Since the coronavirus is new the experts are not so expert yet. This naturally means expert consensus will change. In the current American political climate this has gone beyond healthy skepticism and has led validity to the widespread belief that covid is either fake news or is being used to impose permanent draconian controls which has led to the unfolding calamity and might lead to the pandemic being over in the rest of the world but still a factor in America because people do not take the vaccine. Let America be a lesson to leaders in other countries about taking actions that lead to cynicism in your population.
Those in favor of the expert consensus would do everyone a favor and stop dismissing mitigation efforts as just an inconvenience. A messed up economy and mental health damage to NT’s of not getting the socialization they require is a lot more then inconvenience.
Wearing masks were very uncomfortable at first. i never got used to but it became noticeably less difficult. Recently it has become noticeably more difficult, pandemic fatigue I assume.
IF that’s a quote from Tempus Fugit and s/he can’t figure out why they’re getting flamed then perhaps they need to re-evaluate the flame-bait crap they’re posting.. questioning public health orders from the world’s top epidemiologists during a viral pandemic.
Hopefully they at least had some shortbread rolled out or something so they can enjoy some freshly flame baked seasonal goodness.
That is my personal experience with mask wearing.
Above that. The text not attributed to anyone specifically that just says “Off topic.”
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