What are the odds of this being another William Freund?

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01 Nov 2005, 12:37 pm

Fear not folks, we'll soon have this place to ourselves again. If I remember rightly, when we were slashdotted visitors peaked at around 2000, then dropped back under 100 within 2 days. :)

Hopefully some of our visitors will leave with a better understanding of what people with autism/aspergers are actually like, instead of the stereotypes.


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01 Nov 2005, 2:11 pm

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Hopefully some of our visitors will leave with a better understanding of what people with autism/aspergers are actually like, instead of the stereotypes.


I totally agree, Dunc. I'm all for a little understanding. :)


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01 Nov 2005, 2:39 pm

The Will Fruend saga, though a sad one, has had some good come from it.

I was diagnosed with AS 12 years ago. My relatives were hush-hush about it, and made more than one attempt to sweep it under the rug. It was something that just wasn't discussed around the house.

I've struggled for years to find a place of belonging. Granted, I didn't go out and off my neighbors in an attempt to locate that place, but it's been a place of suffering in silence for too long. I've danced solo with the demons for a long time because there's been nobody with whom I could share with..... Then I found this place through the news reports.

In this particular thread, I've found that a lot of bickering and finger pointing has taken place. As a newcomer, essentially an outsider looking in, it would seem to me that some lessons could be leaned from this tragedy, and pull together as family/friends instead of attempting to rip one another apart here. Has nothing been learned?

The person to whom you're responding to could be very close to that proverbial edge. Truth be known, you know nothing of the person who hides behind the anonymity that a user name provides.

Will Fruend, by all accounts, was a "little weird".... But aren't we all, in some way, a little weird as well? We all have the potential there to become as Will Fruend, were it not for the good fortune of having caring friends and loved ones around us.

My heart bleeds for Will Fruend, for his parents, and for the families of the lives that he ended. My heart also bleeds for the countless others who are, as I was, wandering around without a place of belonging, in search of such a place as this.

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01 Nov 2005, 2:41 pm

Agreed. If the media starts publicizing the fact that he had AS, it will give people just one more reason to ostracize and discriminate against aspies.

The guy obviously had a lot more wrong with him and his life than just AS. And there are people on this board who have shown that people with AS can lead healthy and successful lives.[/quote]

The very thought of this is making me uncomfortable! It was bad enough that AS started to become a household word already...

Well I guess I found the thread about Freund. I have my own comments regarding this on my blog. Again:
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01 Nov 2005, 2:46 pm

He sent me a PM a couple of weeks ago saying how my life would never get any better etc, etc. I reported him today (only just checked my PM box).



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01 Nov 2005, 3:26 pm

DancesWithDemons wrote:
In this particular thread, I've found that a lot of bickering and finger pointing has taken place. As a newcomer, essentially an outsider looking in, it would seem to me that some lessons could be leaned from this tragedy, and pull together as family/friends instead of attempting to rip one another apart here. Has nothing been learned?

Jon


welcome to wrongplanet, jon. :)

we have developed into a community, in the time since the site was started. and because we are now a community, the tragedy and stress of recent events have hit us hard. shock, then guilt, then anger is the natural progression of feelings and emotions which come up as a result of such a situation, and people have done what we wish Will could have done, and expressed these feelings on this thread, and others. it's a safe and healthy way to do so, and i personally feel that people have been remarkably restrained, given the circumstances.

now, i'm not wagging a finger at you - you are new here, and very welcome. just wanted to explain a little about processes of getting through a difficult time like this. in case you wre wondering, much of my work is about counselling and therapeutic stuff like the above.

so, when we have less traffic, and a more accessible board, i hope you find the whole community as enjoyable, frustrating, enteraining and educational as i do. ;)

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01 Nov 2005, 3:34 pm

Duncvis wrote:
Fear not folks, we'll soon have this place to ourselves again. If I remember rightly, when we were slashdotted visitors peaked at around 2000, then dropped back under 100 within 2 days. :)

3675 last time I looked. I have a feeling that we are going to be at the monthly bandwidth limit earlier than usual :-(

On the positive side, hopefully people who actually read the posts will see more of the background than might be inferred from the few quotes given in the articles. Also the articles seem to be not unreasonably written, at least compared to what might have been expected...



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01 Nov 2005, 3:40 pm

DancesWithDemons wrote:
The Will Fruend saga, though a sad one, has had some good come from it.

I was diagnosed with AS 12 years ago. My relatives were hush-hush about it, and made more than one attempt to sweep it under the rug. It was something that just wasn't discussed around the house.

I've struggled for years to find a place of belonging. Granted, I didn't go out and off my neighbors in an attempt to locate that place, but it's been a place of suffering in silence for too long. I've danced solo with the demons for a long time because there's been nobody with whom I could share with..... Then I found this place through the news reports.

In this particular thread, I've found that a lot of bickering and finger pointing has taken place. As a newcomer, essentially an outsider looking in, it would seem to me that some lessons could be leaned from this tragedy, and pull together as family/friends instead of attempting to rip one another apart here. Has nothing been learned?

The person to whom you're responding to could be very close to that proverbial edge. Truth be known, you know nothing of the person who hides behind the anonymity that a user name provides.

Will Fruend, by all accounts, was a "little weird".... But aren't we all, in some way, a little weird as well? We all have the potential there to become as Will Fruend, were it not for the good fortune of having caring friends and loved ones around us.

My heart bleeds for Will Fruend, for his parents, and for the families of the lives that he ended. My heart also bleeds for the countless others who are, as I was, wandering around without a place of belonging, in search of such a place as this.

Jon


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01 Nov 2005, 6:23 pm

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01 Nov 2005, 6:58 pm

What's slash dotted?



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01 Nov 2005, 7:11 pm

Slashdotting is a term used to denote a site swamped by a lot of visitors, usaually by exposure in the media, particulary slashdot.com


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01 Nov 2005, 9:10 pm

Well, the news reports are better than most I've read for other things wher I knew the whole story. I strongly doubt there will be any backash against us, and it will probably raise awareness about mental health issues. I would hope that they mention responsible gun ownership at some point, but I'm definitely not getting my hopes up.

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I'm very surprised that this story hasn't made its way around the internet already.

Me too. What really freaked me out was one thread on a newsgroup that actually blamed his apparently being Jewish on the massacre!

I am pretty sure the kind of comments in that thread were illegal. :cry:

8O What would possibly be illegal about saying that? :? While I disagree that being Jewish had anything to do with the price of tea in china (I'm part Jewish too), if the newsgroup didn't openly promote violence against any group, their right to say whatever is on their mind about anything or anybody is legally protected, and few here would dare challenge that right at the risk of being silenced themselves.



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01 Nov 2005, 10:45 pm

The Los Angelas Times should have asked if they could read my posts. :x



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01 Nov 2005, 10:54 pm

Sean wrote:
Well, the news reports are better than most I've read for other things wher I knew the whole story. I strongly doubt there will be any backash against us, and it will probably raise awareness about mental health issues. I would hope that they mention responsible gun ownership at some point, but I'm definitely not getting my hopes up.


I'm going to be interviewed on fox news channel by Geraldo Rivera. He might discuss that, who knows?.


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01 Nov 2005, 10:56 pm

ilikedragons wrote:
The Los Angelas Times should have asked if they could read my posts. :x


Anyone who comes to this site can read most of the forums, so anything you write that isn't in the members only section or mature section is open to the general public.



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01 Nov 2005, 11:04 pm

I feel like banging my head on a wall.