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23 Jan 2019, 4:28 am

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No if someone walks right into your path, you not moving is you challenging them they challenged you.

If it were an intimidating biker dude, sure, but an elder playing a song? GTFO of here.


How where they intimidating him? He walked into their crowd and got into the face of a child.

A biker dude probably wouldn't feel the need to bully a child.

Not what I call bullying. I call it walking forward. The typical human steps aside to let someone pass. Why did Nick Sandmann feel intimidated?


If a maga hat wearing guy had walked into a crowd of women’s march kids youd say he was bullying them.
The group was there already the guy shouldn’t have gone rushing into them expecting them to move.


From an account of the events I read, the boys were taunting some black men when the indigenous men began drumming and singing to assertively defuse the situation peacefully. That's why Nathan was staring him down; he was a peaceful, assertive, adult putting an unruly child in his place with his song & gaze.


The black men were shouting Crackers at the white kids and calling the black kids coons and n****rs. They they criticised the government "Giving fa***ts rights". The school boys started doing their school chant. Then the old man walked into their group got into the face of a child and banged his drum right next to his face I wouldn't call that peaceful, then we went to the press and lied saying they were chanting build the wall.



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23 Jan 2019, 4:45 am

It seems to many the only thing that's relevant is they were privileged white christians wearing maga hats ie the arch enemy.



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23 Jan 2019, 8:29 am

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It seems to many the only thing that's relevant is they were privileged white christians wearing maga hats ie the arch enemy.


A lot is relevant.. including the kid's interview that plays at this link:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics ... index.html

IMO, his tone, facial expressions, and body language don't match his words. He doesn't seem to be being truthful or genuine.


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23 Jan 2019, 8:48 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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It seems to many the only thing that's relevant is they were privileged white christians wearing maga hats ie the arch enemy.


A lot is relevant.. including the kid's interview that plays at this link:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics ... index.html

IMO, his tone, facial expressions, and body language don't match his words. He doesn't seem to be being truthful or genuine.


Both Phillips' and Sandmann's testimonies have been called into question. But over what really. Neither of them did anything of any real significance. It wasn't even something someone needed to step in and break up. No physical contact, no words or gestures exchanged between them. A molehill turned into mountain.



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23 Jan 2019, 9:59 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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It seems to many the only thing that's relevant is they were privileged white christians wearing maga hats ie the arch enemy.


A lot is relevant.. including the kid's interview that plays at this link:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics ... index.html

IMO, his tone, facial expressions, and body language don't match his words. He doesn't seem to be being truthful or genuine.

That is one of the major problems here. So many are jumping to conclusions about people they have never met based on a few video clips. Sandmann wore a MAGA hat he must be racist, Phillips is an activist therefore he must have done what he did to intentionally provoke a public overreaction.

I hope and Philips and Sandmann do meet, educate each other about stuff and issue a joint statement telling the world to STFU.


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23 Jan 2019, 10:51 pm

Priest: maga hats don't belong on a Catholic school trip. https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/opinions ... index.html


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24 Jan 2019, 3:23 am

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24 Jan 2019, 8:19 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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It seems to many the only thing that's relevant is they were privileged white christians wearing maga hats ie the arch enemy.


A lot is relevant.. including the kid's interview that plays at this link:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics ... index.html

IMO, his tone, facial expressions, and body language don't match his words. He doesn't seem to be being truthful or genuine.


What facial expressions ? There were none , he didn't even blink. Either I can't read facial expressions ( possible ) or you are seeing things that are not there. I didn't see any body language either ( slight head nodding ? ). Yeah he had a monotonous tone though ( so do I :roll: )

My GF said he appeared coached which is totally understandable in this situation.


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24 Jan 2019, 8:38 am

Actually he was bliking to each drum beat in his face. Bliking as in flinching.



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24 Jan 2019, 8:42 am

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Actually he was bliking to each drum beat in his face. Bliking as in flinching.


I was referring to the link that Goldfish posted.


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24 Jan 2019, 8:54 am

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Actually he was bliking to each drum beat in his face. Bliking as in flinching.


I was referring to the link that Goldfish posted.


Whoops. Yes you are right, there's nothing there. I have heard little about the science of reading facial expressions, when it's being performed by an expert in the field, and the eyes seem to be the first giveaway. Is the person looking up or down or to the right or the left. Eye movement is supposed to tell a lot. This person was making very steady eye contact. Also the size of his eyes, as in opening them wide or narrowing his eyes, didn't change.



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24 Jan 2019, 9:20 am

I'm sure it must of been a nervous situation for a kid and that might explain his lack of expressions , he also could of been coached , or that is how he naturally is. Maybe he is autistic :lol:


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24 Jan 2019, 9:25 am

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I'm sure it must of been a nervous situation for a kid and that might explain his lack of expressions , he also could of been coached , or that is how he naturally is. Maybe he is autistic :lol:

Let's not loose the true picture, it's not just about the kid, but the entire crowd of red hat wearing sociopaths.



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24 Jan 2019, 9:30 am

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Priest: maga hats don't belong on a Catholic school trip. https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/opinions ... index.html


These kids may or not be racist but they were failed by adults at every step of the way.

They were failed by the Black Israelites who shouted the most vile things at them for over an hour

They were failed by the media who rushed to judgement because they were wearing MAGA gear.

They were failed by Nathan Phillips who should have understood that after an hour and a half of threats any movement towereds them would be reasonably understood to be hostile. He should have called the police or if he wanted to play hero and calm tensions as he claimed stood between the groups with both hands lifted up in a stop signal.

They were failed by people like comedians Kathy Griffen who publicly called for taking names and doxing the students and the screenwriter for SNL that called for the school to be burned down etc.



And I agree the school was completely negligent in the ways the columnist said and then some.

Although the situations differ in important ways, from our discussions about the gun control walkouts you know how I feel about schools enabling students to participate in political demonstrations during school hours.

I do not know the dress code at that school but the catholic school dress codes in my area require a suit and tie. The students were allowed to dress in casual wear. They were going to and anti abortion rally, if you are anti abortion the anniversary of Roe vs Wade should be a solemn occasion. Why were they dressed up for a Trump rally? I find it hard to believe that this just happened that way, that it was not school policy.

Then there are the missing in action chaporones. Why did they not pull the students away from the scene immediately as soon as the insults started flying from the Black Israelites? The students would have been justified in giving the Black Israelites a well deserved beat down. While deserved it would have not been smart. Who knows what type of weaponry people had out there. If the students had charged the Black Israelites the title of this thread could very well have read “Riot at Lincoln Memorial” or “Mass shooting at Lincoln Memorial”


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