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31 Aug 2017, 6:13 pm

Christopher Columbus Statue Beheaded in Yonkers Police say it could have been juveniles or could be fallout from the deadly protests earlier this month in Charlottesville

Second Christopher Columbus Statue Vandalized in New York in Matter of Days The vandalism comes as the city announces a review of controversial monuments


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31 Aug 2017, 6:39 pm

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Speaking of Democrats assassinating Republicans (like the Bernie-bro who attempted mass murder on a group of Republican congressmen a few days ago): Here's Missouri Democrat State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal: [img]
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OMG!! Who wants to bet that absolutely NOTHING will be done about her tweet, cuz she's black, and everybody'll be afraid to say something, cuz they will think if they do, they'll be called a racist?
...Ummmmmmm..........Did you happen to notice, all these days later, that something WAS "done " about her?

Nope----gotta link?




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31 Aug 2017, 7:27 pm

ASS-P wrote:
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Why do you want these statues anyway? Are you emotionally attached to them? Why?
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This is not about whether or not someone is emotionally attached to them----or, at least, it's not ONLY about that----this is about people, who WANT them there, having that right.

Like I said, on another thread, one people's right shouldn't be taken-away, for another people to have THEIR right. I feel if someone doesn't like lookin' at them, they can choose to not go to those locations----that way EVERYBODY wins----the people who want them, get to have them, and the people who don't wanna see them, don't have to; besides, I doubt, very much, if most people even really had a TOTAL conscious of them, being there----or, if they DID remember seeing a statue, wherever, they didn't know who the statue was, until all this uproar (I've walked-by a million-and-one statues [not literal], and never looked-up, to see who they were, cuz I had other things on my mind).
...I believe the statues, bluntly, heavily put up as symbols of " N_____, WE rule, and DON'T YOU FORGET IT!".

I believe it's quite possible that they weren't saying, anything of the kind----and, that most of them were put-up by "The United Daughters of the Confederacy", to memorialize their brothers, husbands, fathers, etc., and people they considered heroes, like I've read, so often, that they were. Since you think they WERE saying that, however----and, because you can't even say the word, "n!gger" in this sense (a sense, that's appropriate [grant it, I wouldn't say it in a derogatory way, cuz too many black people allow that word, to hurt them - but, I'll be DAMNED if I'm gonna stop using a word, where it's appropriate; and, it IS, IMO, when we're talking about this era, cuz that's what black people were called, then; they weren't called "black", then, so...])----might you, ALSO, be suffering from "White Guilt"?

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Your description of people coming in to cry over their abscence probably no longer live in Baltimoe even if they did once?

I didn't say anyone was actually "crying", over them (at least, in my OP, I didn't say that)----I said people were "like, 'mourning' the loss" (that could mean any of a number of things - like, some people just not liking the change).

I'm thinking those people who I saw on the news, "like, mourning", most probably, DO still live in Baltimore, cuz the statues were torn-down, in the middle of the night, and the event was first broadcast on the early-morning news----I hardly think that someone would, like, drive-all-night, to say "goodbye" to an empty space (and even if they COULD, no one would've done it, cuz nobody KNEW they were coming-down).





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01 Sep 2017, 12:17 am

...There was reaction/blowback to her comment, it was spoken of here on WP! You know?? my circumstances don't allow me to make links, most/all of the time. I bleeped out " the N word ", for one, because I anticipated that the board wouldn't print the word anyway








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ASS-P wrote:
Darmok wrote:
Speaking of Democrats assassinating Republicans (like the Bernie-bro who attempted mass murder on a group of Republican congressmen a few days ago): Here's Missouri Democrat State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal: [img]
Campin_Cat wrote:
OMG!! Who wants to bet that absolutely NOTHING will be done about her tweet, cuz she's black, and everybody'll be afraid to say something, cuz they will think if they do, they'll be called a racist?
...Ummmmmmm..........Did you happen to notice, all these days later, that something WAS "done " about her?

Nope----gotta link?[/quote]


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03 Sep 2017, 2:24 am

More Neo-Confederates are Going on Tantrums :lol: :lol: :lol:
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03 Sep 2017, 2:44 am

Words of wisdom from that hippopotamus faced goon from the Young Turks. :roll:
Yeah, no white person has ever been lynched. :roll:
Anything having to do with hanging people is always racists, just as any progressive. :roll: :roll:

That was a tantrum? How many videos should I post of liberals crying, throwing tantrums, and rioting after the election?


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03 Sep 2017, 4:00 am

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Words of wisdom from that hippopotamus faced goon from the Young Turks. :roll:

It's funny because the only people who hate Cenk are Trump superfans and extreme right wing types



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03 Sep 2017, 4:23 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Words of wisdom from that hippopotamus faced goon from the Young Turks. :roll:

It's funny because the only people who hate Cenk are Trump superfans and extreme right wing types


Nope.

Mainstream corporate "liberals" hate him too.


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03 Sep 2017, 5:06 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Words of wisdom from that hippopotamus faced goon from the Young Turks. :roll:

It's funny because the only people who hate Cenk are Trump superfans and extreme right wing types


Nope.

Mainstream corporate "liberals" hate him too.


I somehow doubt Raptor see's himself in that cluster



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03 Sep 2017, 11:39 am

cyberdad wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Words of wisdom from that hippopotamus faced goon from the Young Turks. :roll:

It's funny because the only people who hate Cenk are Trump superfans and extreme right wing types


Let me guess;
Trump Superfan: Anyone who voted for Trump, even reluctantly and as a lesser evil

Extreme right wing types: Anyone who's not a progressive

I'd probably find Cenk annoying even if he were a conservaive.
He just has that obnoxious personality that I find to be rather grating after a while. The only good thing about it if he were a conservaive is that I could take great pleasure in the fact that he'd be driving liberals up a wall. :P


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03 Sep 2017, 1:13 pm

Raptor wrote:
I'd probably find Cenk annoying even if he were a conservaive.
He just has that obnoxious personality that I find to be rather grating after a while. The only good thing about it if he were a conservaive is that I could take great pleasure in the fact that he'd be driving liberals up a wall. :P

He once was a conservative, which explains why he sometimes uses right-wing tactics (i.e. playing loose with the facts and hoping nobody notices). That said, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this particular video. I somehow doubt that congressman's reference to lynching as punishment was purely coincidental. His comment was about on par with a typical comment by a racist right-wing troll on youtube.



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03 Sep 2017, 2:24 pm

Regardless of whether it's right to get rid of the statues, or if they can really be considered art ... what really troubles me is that the pro-removal folks seem to believe this will actually do some real good for their cause and improve race relations in the U.S. If so, they are going to be bitterly disappointed. This won't change anything, at least not for the better. They're taking down historical monuments and putting nothing in their place but more divisive rhetoric and social unrest.


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03 Sep 2017, 6:40 pm

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....IIRC, earlier in this line, you suggested a comprimise between those whose entire self-esteem is tied up in the Confederate statues remaining on public land forever (Perhaps the slightest bit of the Welsh exaggeration there :mrgreen: ) and those offended by their presence on public land of " The people who are offended by them should'nt go to those places . ".
First, the public land the statues are on are often very major places, like the county courthouse lawn. The sensibilities of the statue worshippers must be salved by leaving them there always? Are all statues left where they were initially erected forever?
Second, while I guess I may not have been strictly accurate - I was just relying on your description of what you saw on TV ~ I do think that the people visiting the former statue sitesprobably don't live neat there, generally.
WHY DON'T THEY OFFER THEIR BELOVED STATUES A NEW HOME? On private land.
Privatization is a core conservative virtue, no? Margaret Thatcher would, no doubt, agree 8).
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ASS-P wrote:
Darmok wrote:
Speaking of Democrats assassinating Republicans (like the Bernie-bro who attempted mass murder on a group of Republican congressmen a few days ago): Here's Missouri Democrat State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal: [img]
Campin_Cat wrote:
OMG!! Who wants to bet that absolutely NOTHING will be done about her tweet, cuz she's black, and everybody'll be afraid to say something, cuz they will think if they do, they'll be called a racist?
...Ummmmmmm..........Did you happen to notice, all these days later, that something WAS "done " about her?

Nope----gotta link?[/quote]


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03 Sep 2017, 7:05 pm

Evil_Chuck wrote:
Regardless of whether it's right to get rid of the statues, or if they can really be considered art ... what really troubles me is that the pro-removal folks seem to believe this will actually do some real good for their cause and improve race relations in the U.S. If so, they are going to be bitterly disappointed. This won't change anything, at least not for the better. They're taking down historical monuments and putting nothing in their place but more divisive rhetoric and social unrest.


America will be full of divisive rhetoric and social unrest no matter what we do. We might as well piss off hypersensitive peckerwoods as much as possible for the lulz.


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03 Sep 2017, 9:53 pm

Raptor wrote:
I'd probably find Cenk annoying even if he were a conservaive.
He just has that obnoxious personality that I find to be rather grating after a while. The only good thing about it if he were a conservaive is that I could take great pleasure in the fact that he'd be driving liberals up a wall. :P


My understanding is that Cenk used to be a conservative republican but had a "Road to Damascus" experience and switched sides before eventually joining the "Young Turks".
His obnoxious forthright arrogance probably stems from his time as a republican



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03 Sep 2017, 9:56 pm

Evil_Chuck wrote:
Regardless of whether it's right to get rid of the statues, or if they can really be considered art ... what really troubles me is that the pro-removal folks seem to believe this will actually do some real good for their cause and improve race relations in the U.S. If so, they are going to be bitterly disappointed. This won't change anything, at least not for the better. They're taking down historical monuments and putting nothing in their place but more divisive rhetoric and social unrest.

It probably won't but its (at least) one less irritating reminder of a past best forgotten or (more dangerously) symbols of a bygone era that acts like a magnet for undesirables