NOT GOOD, Connecticut shooter was diagnosed with Aspergers..

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Without AS, he would be more involved, emotional and social, basically he'd "fit in" the society. Being excluded, he didn't care what happens to them or him, since on one cared about him. AS plays a big part in all this, it's a curse to have it.

^^^^^Agreed Machalatte,education is needed ,people think that anyone who is different is a threat.
People also get nervous if you mention any mental illness ,but most mentally ill are harmless,they are more likely to be a victim of crime or stigma.
My ex-sister in law works with NAMI and she tries to inform the public that people with developmental disorders and mental illness are no different than anyone else,we have feelings,hopes,dreams and bad days just like everyone else. We are not a threat or something that needs to be swept under the rug.

I cannot help but think of USA as the most dysfunctional country on Earth. We have 1% of the male population in jail, we have the highest number of psychologists, highest number of mentally ill people, militarized police walking around everywhere, cameras, drones. It seems USA is just a big experiment of a country, a giant mental hospital.

This is really scary. I have a daily routine which involves looking at a news website. I saw about this and people were even saying all autistics should be locked away in institutions. That is one of my biggest fears so I am scared it will happen to me. Has also destroyed ny trust in school, it could of just as easily been my school!

The killer was mis-diagnosed, IMHO.

Not all Aspies are capable of murder or have an evil spark in them,,,,right?

If that were true, I would kill myself right now because I do not want to end up having crazy urges to do such diabolical crimes like that. Thankfully I am certain that I do not have an evil spark in me. I can't even kill a fly. I get very emotional and deaths of other people. I work in an old people's care home, and just looking at some of the old people makes me want to cry.

Yes, I may get irritable in public. I may think I hate the general public, and I may wish bad things on all the horrible people that have ever been horrible to me, and I may imagine myself angrily pushing somebody out of my way in shops who stand in my space, and I may be almost spitting mad when babies and toddlers start screaming, and I may have hatred towards bus-drivers that aren't my favourite ones. But that does not mean I am capable of murder. Heck, I can't even stand up for myself because of being too afraid to hurt someone's feelings.

I blame his mother for his lack of empathy. My parents are simple people, dare I say poor West Virginian hillbillies. They do not have fancy college education based degrees. The shooter's teacher mother pulled him out of school and home schooled him. Big mistake according to my mom and dad. They did not know what was wrong with me in the 70's. No one diagnosed me with Asperger's they wrongfully dx'd me with ADHD. My parents did not know what any of that was, but they knew I was anti-social so they made sure to make me play with the other kids. I did not want to have anything to do with the other kids, so I would hide and my parents would find me and force me outside. I would have to play with other kids in whatever games they wanted to play. I learned how to interact with other people properly, I even learned how to speak up for myself and talk people into doing what I wanted.

I would get my ass smacked if I acted out violently with my friends. My parents would ask if I liked getting hit, of course I said no and learned not to hit other kids. They also taught me empathy by buying me dog and making me take care of it. They also taught me responsibility and gave me a work ethic by giving me jobs to do on my dad's property clearing brush, stacking firewood, and planting trees. They never babied me or allowed me to use my "weirdness" as an excuse not to do something or go somewhere.

Adam Lanza's mother pulled him out of school to home school him. Doing this to him was great disservice. How would he be expected to learn to properly interact with people if she allowed him to hide from people? I might have been savagely bullied in school, but I had friends. I was awkward from K-7th grades and I learned how to better interact with people by staying in school. From 8th -12th grade I made friends easily because I was different and funny. Some people wanted to punch me in the face for being different and there were others who were attracted to my weirdness and sense of humor. I wonder if Lanza's mother shielded him from friends or going outside of their house trying to protect her son. I wanted to hide from people, but my parents pushed me out of the nest no matter how much I protested. Adam Lanza's mother must have played to his weaknesses instead of making him overcome them. She made a monster out of her son by trying to protect him from the kids at school and in the end little kids and herself became his victims.

Last edited by Todesking on 16 Dec 2012, 1:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

We have a population way over 200 million. Of course we are going to have more of everything.

But I do agree with the cameras and drones watching our own people like we are all criminals.

Well, aspies can go bad, too. We're not saints. Aspies are much more likely to be victims, than victimizers, but sometimes victims get angry. Years of bullying and rejection can do that to you.I just wish I knew what his mother was thinking, leaving all those firearms around. Umemployed depressed, embittered aspie + arsenal of weapons at his fingertips, probably not a good combination

How many stabbings, beatings, and other forms of violent death were carried out in those countries? If someone wants you dead they are going to get you without a firearm if they have none. Look at prisons. They have tight security and they are monitored almost 24/7, but people are getting slashed or stabbed to death or horribly maimed everyday with homemade "shanks"

A prison guard on a reality show that was in a prison was quated as saying, "It is amazing what people will come up with to hurt or kill oneanother when they have no access to proper weapons." He was holding a stabbing weapon made from melted down styrofoam cups fashioned into a "shank".

So sad, those poor families


I would think having a rigid, controlling abusive mother who homeschooled her kid (no escape from the abuser) would have more to do with him snapping and going on a rampage than aspergers.

Hello Todesking,I'm a Ozark Hillbilly.
Dr.Gupta has been talking about violence in the media and video games,of course most gamers are just having fun but there may be some people with violent urges that may be influenced by them,he mentioned a old report by one of the Surgeon Generals.
I was bullied as a kid but never wanted to hurt anyone like that.My son was bullied in school,he had a speech impediment and was in Special Olympics.He was raised around guns,hunts and he never acted out in violence either.He said no matter how badly he was bullied he never thought of doing something like that.
The media glorifies violence,movies and games make it look cool.
Kids see this on a regular basis,they are becoming de-sensitized to violence.

I was taught firearm safety at age five and went hunting with my dad at an early age. I consider myself more safe than my NT friends when it comes to firarms when we go target shooting. Maybe it is because of my Aspergers or maybe because I was raised right I don't know. I was bullied savagely in high school. I was beaten up, spit on, and had my shirt set on fire in studyhall once, but I never thought of going on a shooting spree. By the time I was in high school I owned a .22 caliber semi-auto rifle, a single shot 20 gauge shotgun, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun for squirell, turkey rabbit, pheasant, and deer hunting. I never once thought of killing a human with those firearms. My first firearm was purchased for me when I was twelve, it was a single shotgun. Everyone in my family did this with their kids and we have had no accidents or murders. Everytime I hunted it was for food. I like to think that it was celebrating my Appalachian and Native American heritage. I believe it has everything to do with upbringing.

I'm starting to wonder if perhaps people will not start saying poachers have AS as well. They're ruthless and heartless killers, after all. I hope not. I, for one, would never kill an animal for its skin, horns, to put up on a trophy wall, or anything. And yet they say that people with AS have absolutely no empathy. Even supposing that were so, that does not mean we are heartless.

I've heard that people say that part of the problem is that we live in a society where kids play violent video games and watch a lot of violence on tv, and this affects them. Well, my AS has made me a bit more resistant to this sort of thing and peer pressure. I never liked these things in part because I never wanted to be like the people who gave me such a hard time.

The entire point of a Trophy is to buy the admiration of others. I don't see this a being well aligned with AS.

ruveyn

just another reason to put labels smh