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06 Sep 2017, 5:24 am

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being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

Got videos of people crying over statues?
I can find plenty with people crying over Trump.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv ... 6f09c2ae14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... olice.html

cried like a baby



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06 Sep 2017, 9:38 am

cyberdad wrote:
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cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

Got videos of people crying over statues?
I can find plenty with people crying over Trump.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv ... 6f09c2ae14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... olice.html

cried like a baby


Wrong!
It wasn't statues they were crying over but other issues that occurred at a rally related to statues.

On the other hand, these kooks ARE crying over Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaVjXvjj2mQ


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06 Sep 2017, 10:58 am

Funny, I'm posting in a thread that has had nothing but 19 pages of crying over the statue removal, all by people that don't live in the area, don't have jurisdiction over the statues, and aren't even remotely tied to the issue except to say it's their heritage, which is neither accurate nor true, since again no one actually lives in Charlotteville that's complained in this thread. You can't scream states rights, local communities, etc, and then be against it when those same institutions disagree with you: you either believe in their rights to govern their communities or you don't-- and in every single case of flag and/or statue removal over the last five years it has been a local or state government leading the charge, not northern liberals, not antifa, but local and state governments in the south. So in short: there's nothing to complain about because southerners have told me for years the war was REALLY about state's rights, and not slavery, and here we are seeing local and state governments exercising those rights.



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06 Sep 2017, 11:09 am

cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:


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06 Sep 2017, 12:44 pm

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I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.

Your strategy doesn't fool us anymore. You expect us to accept some innocuous banjo monument one day, and then the next you expect our children to bow down before a 40-foot tall bronze Godzilla.

(I sense a movie coming on: "Bobby Lee vs. Godzilla, with a special appearance by U.S. Grant as Mothra")


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06 Sep 2017, 1:09 pm

Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:

You can tack on Antebellum architecture, public college (the University of Georgia and the University of North Carolina were the first 2 public colleges) and peach cobbler (I know cobbler was an early 'settler' food, not 100% sure it originated in the South but I'm inclined to accept that it was because it's popular there and well, Georgia). Those are all positives aspects of Southern culture that most Americans appreciate, but that one time the south aggressively attacked it's brothers and sisters, not so much, and that's why the confederate flag is different than basic southern culture and does a disservice to southern culture when it's propped up as the symbol of the south since it doesn't hold that connotation anywhere else.



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06 Sep 2017, 1:16 pm

Darmok wrote:
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I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.

Your strategy doesn't fool us anymore. You expect us to accept some innocuous banjo monument one day, and then the next you expect our children to bow down before a 40-foot tall bronze Godzilla.

(I sense a movie coming on: "Bobby Lee vs. Godzilla, with a special appearance by U.S. Grant as Mothra")

I was thinking Italian marble instead of bronze.


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06 Sep 2017, 1:18 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:

You can tack on Antebellum architecture, public college (the University of Georgia and the University of North Carolina were the first 2 public colleges) and peach cobbler (I know cobbler was an early 'settler' food, not 100% sure it originated in the South but I'm inclined to accept that it was because it's popular there and well, Georgia). Those are all positives aspects of Southern culture that most Americans appreciate, but that one time the south aggressively attacked it's brothers and sisters, not so much, and that's why the confederate flag is different than basic southern culture and does a disservice to southern culture when it's propped up as the symbol of the south since it doesn't hold that connotation anywhere else.

Say yes to peach cobbler and no to hate. :D


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06 Sep 2017, 2:07 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:

You can tack on Antebellum architecture, public college (the University of Georgia and the University of North Carolina were the first 2 public colleges) and peach cobbler (I know cobbler was an early 'settler' food, not 100% sure it originated in the South but I'm inclined to accept that it was because it's popular there and well, Georgia). Those are all positives aspects of Southern culture that most Americans appreciate, but that one time the south aggressively attacked it's brothers and sisters, not so much, and that's why the confederate flag is different than basic southern culture and does a disservice to southern culture when it's propped up as the symbol of the south since it doesn't hold that connotation anywhere else.

Say yes to peach cobbler and no to hate. :D


Don't forget Southern fried chicken (which I've had as far away as Alberta and listed on the menu as just that), cat head biscuits with sourwood honey, fried catfish with hushpuppies, jambalaya, Virginia ham, just about anything barbecued, etc.

I don't see any "baggage" when it comes to Southern culture as it applies to the Confederacy. I've found nothing stating that secession was illegal before the war. You know that I know that you know that this statue craze has nothing to do with racism, that's just a smoke screen in a weak attempt to legitimize statue removal. As I've said before, it's all about butthurt after last November's stinging loss. :twisted:


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06 Sep 2017, 2:25 pm

Misslizard wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:

You can tack on Antebellum architecture, public college (the University of Georgia and the University of North Carolina were the first 2 public colleges) and peach cobbler (I know cobbler was an early 'settler' food, not 100% sure it originated in the South but I'm inclined to accept that it was because it's popular there and well, Georgia). Those are all positives aspects of Southern culture that most Americans appreciate, but that one time the south aggressively attacked it's brothers and sisters, not so much, and that's why the confederate flag is different than basic southern culture and does a disservice to southern culture when it's propped up as the symbol of the south since it doesn't hold that connotation anywhere else.

Say yes to peach cobbler and no to hate. :D

On that we're in 100% agreement.



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06 Sep 2017, 2:44 pm

Raptor wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:

You can tack on Antebellum architecture, public college (the University of Georgia and the University of North Carolina were the first 2 public colleges) and peach cobbler (I know cobbler was an early 'settler' food, not 100% sure it originated in the South but I'm inclined to accept that it was because it's popular there and well, Georgia). Those are all positives aspects of Southern culture that most Americans appreciate, but that one time the south aggressively attacked it's brothers and sisters, not so much, and that's why the confederate flag is different than basic southern culture and does a disservice to southern culture when it's propped up as the symbol of the south since it doesn't hold that connotation anywhere else.

Say yes to peach cobbler and no to hate. :D


Don't forget Southern fried chicken (which I've had as far away as Alberta and listed on the menu as just that), cat head biscuits with sourwood honey, fried catfish with hushpuppies, jambalaya, Virginia ham, just about anything barbecued, etc.

I don't see any "baggage" when it comes to Southern culture as it applies to the Confederacy. I've found nothing stating that secession was illegal before the war. You know that I know that you know that this statue craze has nothing to do with racism, that's just a smoke screen in a weak attempt to legitimize statue removal. As I've said before, it's all about butthurt after last November's stinging loss. :twisted:

I hope you get a new neighbor right across the street from you.They worship Hillary.Soon they install a twelve foot statue of her in the front yard.It's lit up at night.You can see it from your breakfast nook.They even decorate it for Christmas.
Oh you'll put up with it for awhile,but one night you'll snap.Then you break out the tactical night vision stuff.... :twisted:


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06 Sep 2017, 4:32 pm

^
1. If anything I'd be amused by it and eventually not even notice it so much.
2. It's their yard and they can put up any statue they want.

Gee, I bet this has been a disappointment.
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06 Sep 2017, 6:26 pm

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1. If anything I'd be amused by it and eventually not even notice it so much.
2. It's their yard and they can put up any statue they want.

Gee, I bet this has been a disappointment.
:P

Naw.Everyone has cameras these days,so assulting a neighbor's questionable yard art could be a costly mistake.Although I'm sure you would let your dog take a leak on it if you could.


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06 Sep 2017, 10:12 pm

Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
NightEclipse wrote:
being a Southerner myself, it gets extremely infuriating to see my heritage literally torn down because some snivelling snowball's feelings supposedly get hurt.

Peculiar thing, if the confederacy showed the strength of southern "antebellum" culture (your heritage) then why do grown men cry like babies when a statue gets removed? doesn't that indicate something is wrong with your heritage if it so unstable?

There isn't a culture that exists that doesn't have baggage.Nothing wrong with the heritage,it's what people choose to honor.
I would rather Southern culture be remembered and honored for the good things.Our great gift of music from blues to mountain,varied dialects, all sorts of food from soul food,BBQ,Cajun,Creole,TexMex,etc..The various styles of architecture,crafts like quilts,the best manners,good bourbons,porch swings,and some great works of literature.
And drive thru daiquiris. :lol:

But that's exactly my point. A robust and strong culture is able to accept moving a couple of rusty statues.



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06 Sep 2017, 10:19 pm

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You know that I know that you know that this statue craze has nothing to do with racism, that's just a smoke screen in a weak attempt to legitimize statue removal. As I've said before, it's all about butthurt after last November's stinging loss. :twisted:


Which would be true if a wide cross section of all of the south's people walked hand in hand angered at the removal of a statue of a man much loved by all southerners.

Instead what you had (honestly even a blindman could see this) was a bunch of racists (lets face it they weren't hiding their crudentials) with KKK outfits, neo-Nazi symbols and the odd swastika spurred on by the likes of David Duke and Richard Spencer trying to protect a statue of the last proponent of slavery

As usual raptor, your discourse eminates largely from your backside...



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06 Sep 2017, 10:53 pm

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Raptor wrote:
You know that I know that you know that this statue craze has nothing to do with racism, that's just a smoke screen in a weak attempt to legitimize statue removal. As I've said before, it's all about butthurt after last November's stinging loss. :twisted:


Which would be true if a wide cross section of all of the south's people walked hand in hand angered at the removal of a statue of a man much loved by all southerners.

Instead what you had (honestly even a blindman could see this) was a bunch of racists (lets face it they weren't hiding their crudentials) with KKK outfits, neo-Nazi symbols and the odd swastika spurred on by the likes of David Duke and Richard Spencer trying to protect a statue of the last proponent of slavery.

Whatever... :roll: :roll:

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As usual raptor, your discourse eminates largely from your backside...

Personal attack :shameonyou:
But it'll only get you more of my discourse.


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