Kyle Rittenhouse trial

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Yeah, but you wouldn't have encouraged her to take a real gun to a different state and play at 'heavily armed medic' to defend a business that the owners did not even ask to have defended. I don't think.

No, I would not have. I’ve said several times that I found the fact his parent(s) “allowed” him to go (I can’t actually remember at this moment if they even knew) to be highly irresponsible. The teen was in over his head and should never have been there.

Minimum age requirements may be imperfect cut offs but they still exist for good reasons.

Obviously.

I went off topic because the image of Dox’s mom failing to stall his love of guns by not letting him play with toy guns left me reflecting on parenthood as a general concept, unrelated to the trial.

Who "took a real gun to a different state and play[ed] at 'heavily armed medic' to defend a business that the owners did not even ask to have defended."?

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This 'Kyle Rittenhouse Trial' is More Than Just

A Trial About A Little Boy Who Found A Big Gun

And Wanted to Prove He Is A Man With Meaning

And Purpose in Life With A Social Role That Counts;

Indeed, It is About The Rest of

A Nation too; And Increasingly

Globe, With Little

Boys Who

Have Never

'Traditionally'

Been Transformed into

Men By Some Commonly Shared

Initiation Rite of Life That Doesn't Include

Actually Killing Folks And Potentially Spending

Years in Jail; And True, When An Entire Country is a Reflection

Of this Human Imbalance; Yes, An Entire Country Will Agree to

Go to War And Kill Over 100,000 Innocent BROWN Folks in an Entirely

Different Country Searching For Weapons of Mass Destruction that

Do Not Exist, Where

A Group of Folks

From Another Country

Killed 3,000 Plus of Our

Folks Ramming OUR Planes

Into OUR Twin Towers/Pentagon Motivating

The Same Kind of Misplaced "Patriotism"

That Inspired That Young Man to Take His

Big Man AR15 Gun And Go Risk His Life to Save

Someone Else's Property;

Just Because He Watched

it On the News, Just Because

He Watched it on the News, Yes,

No Different Really than 'That Pizza Parlor
Conspiracy', Where Another Older Dude

Followed The Same Kind of Idiotic You
Tube News to Take His Big Man Gun And Resolve

A MaNuFacTuReD Problem to Make Money Through

The Same Kind of Conspiracy Theories That A Country

Totally Unrelated to the One That Struck At Us, Had Weapons

Of Mass

Destruction
That Were NOT Any
Real Danger to Our Country then...

It Had Bull CR8P Written All over it Same

As Conspiracy theories Supported By Churches
Where i Live About Vaccines, Where Middle Age
Men are Willing to Give Away 20-Year Jobs With

Retirement Benefits Just to PROVE THEY ARE A MAN OF

GOD, IN THIS INSTANCE; AND Others IN A MADE UP STORY
SPOON FED ALL

THE WAY

FROM Birth

Where By 'THE Way'

They Believe that the

AFTER DEATH PARTY IS
WHERE THE REAL LIFE BEGINS

(Biggest Lie Ever Told in Human

History And Even Catholic Priests/
Monks Like Richard Rohr Agree)

With a Carrot of Heaven and Stick
of Hell Dangled With A Fishing Rod
Before Their Face Chasing it Their Whole

Life and Never

Really Going

Anywhere

At All

In Heaven

On Earth Now

As True It Was ALL A MEtaphor

in the First Place, Tainted By those

Who wanted to Keep THeir Jobs By

MaNiPuLaTiNG The Group Think No Different Really

Than the War in Iraq, And This Little Boy Suffocating

Trying

To Be

A Man

He Will
Never Be

Until He Does
What His Ancestors

Did; And Does it Without
Any Clothes, Without Any Tools

At All; Yes Naked Whole Complete Enough;

Anyway, it DAMN SURE WORKED FOR ME WHEN

i Went

Back to

The Rivers

of Naked Belief;

Yes, Yes, My Father
Was in Law Enforcement;
He Got His Initiation in Part
Through Farm Life, Through
Playing On A High School FootBall
Team, Through Boot Camp In the Army,

Through 46 Years Of Law Enforcement

As My Mother Only Wanted to Raise Children

In a Garden Of Love And He Wanted to Be Rich
With A Wife that Would Work for the Same Goal

As Approved By Capitalistic CuLTuRE;

So he Left at my Age of

3 Before i could Speak
At 4, And Basically

Left me With

my Mother

To Raise

As A Domesticated

Lap Cat So That is What

i Became, Until i Found my

Way Naked Whole Complete

Enough to Grow Teeth and

Claws Along with

The Lap

Cat

of me...

It Wouldn't Be too Hard

to Imagine me as A Cop...

That's What i Get Mistaken

For the Most in 'Real Life'; Even

When i Dance With Colorful Shirts

As Free As A Bird on a Wing in a Store;

Folks tell me i Realize You are Undercover

Security, Yet We Have A Problem Over in Aisle 6;

HAha,

Just like

The Conspiracy

Theories at the
Metro Dance Hall

As They Couldn't Understand
Why a Grown ASS Man Would Be
Dancing With Young Folks For No Reason

at All Solo As i Did

So they Assumed

i Was An Undercover

Narcotics Officer, Haha

or Even FBI; The Conspiracy

Theories Are Still Amusing to me...

Truth is i'm Practically An 'Invisible Man'...

A Mystery

to Them;

Yet Fully
Understood by
me; Don't Be Mastered

By the Tools; Master them
Naked, Whole, Complete, Enough

Like the Google Card Catalog Search
Engine for my Life; Uploading Close to
200,000 Photos All Together And 9.8 MiLLioN
Words All Associated in 98 Months; All i Had to

Do is Search

"Aghogday Toy Gun"

In Key Words to Pull Up
Precisely the Illustrative
Tool i Wanted to Use to Make this Point...

Humans are Basically the Same Evolved
Animal We Were Tens of Thousands of Years

Ago; All That is Generally Separating Us From

The Nightmares or Dreams Put into Fruition

in Years Before

IS THE TOOLS

OF CULTURE

SPOON-FED FROM BIRTH;

OUR LAW AND ORDER;

OUR CHAOS

AND ART;

OUR LIVES, HEAVEN
YES NOW PURGATORY OR
REAL HELL IN THE STREETS OF FIRE...

Anyway, Unless Law and Order Doesn't
Provide A Steep Enough Penalty For this

Infraction of Civil Society Or Riots That Destroy

Folk's Property Where Aimless Young Men And Or Women
Take Advantage Of That Circumstance to Find Some Shallow

Meaning and Purpose

In Life And Even

A Social

Role

As Brief

As A Looter

Destroying Private

Property to get Back at 'The Man'...

We Eventually Will Fall as a Society

And DevolVE iNto A Place WHere Life

Really Isn't Worth Living; And Folks

Will Drag Their Ass ALong as

The Will to

Survive

Is Usually

the Greatest

Will of All; Yet It's

True, Through Cultural

Rules We Have the Ability

to Make Life More Heaven Than

Hell, If We Master The Tools and Do Not
Become Mastered

By What

We Use

to Survive and Thrive...

And Sure, if i wasn't always
The Victor in Every Battle
And Small Skirmish Fought

(EvenTuaLLY)

in Life,

i Might

See the

Need to

Own an

Equalizer

too; So Far No...

Don't Need Any Artificial 'Arms'...

And Nope, Not Even Any Artificial Hips, Knees, or
Ankles After Public Dancing for 15,700 Miles Now in 98 Months;

Yet of Course, i Use the Tool of a Leg Pressing Machine
Up to 1520 Pounds to Avoid That And Easily Curl Over
200 Pounds on Other Machines to Keep My Arms Solid

Enough for the Dance of Life to

continue on...

Like i Said,

Master the Tools...

And Do Not Become a Fool With A Tool...

Not Any Different Really Than 'Steve Bannon'; Yes,
If This Boy/Man Goes Totally Unaccountable For His 'Dirty Deeds';
Nope, It's Not A Favorable Sign For The Continuance of This Country...

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Based on Friday's discussion between the judge, prosecutors and defence lawyers, there is a chance that the 6th count may be dismissed prior to jury deliberation.

This charge was related to:

As the judge noted, the "rubric" (or title) is not part of the statute. What is applicable is what is written inside the statute, not what it is named. In this case, the statute consists of 3 sections.

The first section contains the relevent definitions for terms used in the statute:


The second section lists the components, of which (at least) one entry must be met in terms of a finding of guilt:


The third section contains a list of exclusions, of which any one being met would eliminate the possibility of a finding of guilt:


The judge's stance appeared to be that the prosecution has not presented any evidence to contest the exclusions in the third section, whereas the defence had done so (age was not contested, and they had testimony from one of the witnesses regarding the barrel length, meeting the requirements for 948.60(3)(c) (c) - the hunting exclusions being listed as an alternative (or) would not need to be addressed if the first component (barrel length) is met). this means there are no "questions of facts" over which the jury would need to consider, and it becomes a "question of law" over which a judge must decide (see https://www.insuranceexamguides.com/questions-of-fact-versus-questions-of-law/ for a simple explanation). There is a possibility that the prosecution had entered evidence, or provided testimony which would bring these factors into question (or that they can show the defence's question (and answer provided) do not fully satisfy the requirements), which the judge had asked them to supply details of, so it is not certain whether this will go to the jury (If it does, this exclusion will be included in jury instructions for determining a verdict).

The prosecutor said if the defense wants to argue that Rittenhouse was using his rifle for hunting, then Rittenhouse should admit he was hunting people.

Oh man, check out this relic of the 70s, you can really see the effect that Hollywood had on lawmakers in that list of "dangerous weapons" that they called out by name, you know full well that there never were a wave of crimes committed with nunchucks, shurikens, manrikigusari, etc, but that some local congressman saw a Bruce Lee movies and decided he needed to push a law to ban these things. You see it too with switchblade bans, fixed blade knives are faster and more dangerous, but don't face the regulation because they weren't featured prominently in a bunch of 1950s movies about young punks causing trouble. Goes to show why people like me fight so hard against even stupid laws, they're incredibly hard to get off the books once they're enacted.

It's worth considering the role of parents from an investigative perspective (I am sure Huber and Rosenbaum's parents would be asking the same question) but Dox's mother/father and Kyle's mother/father are different people and Kyle obviously has filled his absent parenting with people who love guns and this has been normalised by his mother who probably never had the time (give she was working shift) to convince him it was a bad idea.

I'm also suggesting that Kyle's parents may have had nothing to do with his love of guns, it's all speculation, and given judge Schroeder is not permitting any extenuating circumstances to be entrained in explaining Kyle's intentions the point is moot.

Your are describing the pre-trial discussion (before all witness\evidences have been presented to the jury), not the discussion on Friday which I was describing (that was outlining the evidenss produced and describing how the prosecution had not contested anything the defence had produced related to the charge, nor presented other evidence related to the hunting provision).
As was noted on Friday, he was under 18 (acknowledged\not contested) and carrying a rifle\shotgun (acknowledged\not contested), so the question was related to evidence regarding whether any of the exclusions applied, which in this case required either:

or


If you are going to discuss the trial, please try to watch\pay attention to what is happening in it and refer to the current status, rather than relying on prior (outdated\superceeded) news.

I am describing the future of the prosecutor's closing arguments, if the jury has to decide the hunting argument.

Prosecutor to jury: "What was he hunting?"

Unless they had already produced evidence relating to hunting\hunting licences during the trial, they are not permitted to do that - closing arguments can only refer to evidence\testimony produced during the trial... And neither party made reference to hunting.

The thing I don't understand is why has the media painted Rittenhouse as such a big name in killings that happened in the riots. Lots of these riots were going on after George Floyd, and a lot of people were killed in the riots by other people. So why is Rittenhouse the big star of it all, or what makes him so special compared to others who killed others in the riots? Why is he public enemy number one, compared to all these other killers out there?

Who are these other killers you are referring to? do you mean cops? right wing militia?

Well there is this source that talks about additional killings done by other people:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rest-acled