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28 Aug 2019, 4:55 pm

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Of course, there are geopolitical implications in all this, too.

The US wants a sort of hegemony over the Middle East and areas adjacent to it. That's another reason why it always has its tootsies in their business.


Replace "US" with "people more powerful than any US politician" and you're on the right track.



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28 Aug 2019, 4:55 pm

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LOL....it's obvious that we have derailed this thread.

Shall we return to Jeffrey Epstein and his suicide?



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28 Aug 2019, 4:56 pm

...Just to say some thing not personal here - Does anybody wanna speculate about what kinda action Prince Andrew of England, the Duke of York (Charles' younger brother - he's my exact age. in fact! 8O ) got set up for him by Jeffery? According to allegations made in court. some :P! And young stuff. too :wink:...Randy Andy may not be setting foot Stateside for some time to come...
This a nice pitchback to JE, KK?
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28 Aug 2019, 4:56 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
LOL....it's obvious that we have derailed this thread.

Shall we return to Jeffrey Epstein and his suicide?


Sure! A healthy distraction for the public!



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28 Aug 2019, 5:10 pm

Roboto wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
LOL....it's obvious that we have derailed this thread.

Shall we return to Jeffrey Epstein and his suicide?


Sure! A healthy distraction for the public!
I would concede the point that that validity of conspiracy is relavent to the Epstein suicide debate.but the thread has gone off track a little bit


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28 Aug 2019, 5:13 pm

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Roboto wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
LOL....it's obvious that we have derailed this thread.

Shall we return to Jeffrey Epstein and his suicide?


Sure! A healthy distraction for the public!
I would concede the point that that validity of conspiracy is relavent to the Epstein suicide debate.but the thread has gone off track a little bit



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28 Aug 2019, 5:17 pm

Of course, if it is found that there was some sort of "conspiracy," and the evidence is irrefutable-----then I would have to accept it.

As it stands now, I believe this was a suicide, bought about by what he was facing----and perhaps what he has already faced---while being a prisoner who is charged with sexual violation of minors.



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28 Aug 2019, 5:21 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Of course, if it is found that there was some sort of "conspiracy," and the evidence is irrefutable-----then I would have to accept it.

As it stands now, I believe this was a suicide, bought about by what he was facing----and perhaps what he has already faced---while being a prisoner who is charged with sexual violation of minors.


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28 Aug 2019, 7:52 pm

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The last 3 pages of this thread has turned into bullying a member.
Then I'm glad I bailed out when I did.



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28 Aug 2019, 7:53 pm

Nothing triggers my AS more than the misuse of the word conspiracy.
By definition, when my wife and I talked about getting a puppy we technically conspired on this.
Sad the word has been bastardized down to where it has and that there’s no suitable synonym.
Taking 9/11 as an example again, even if you believe the 9/11 commission report it is still technically a conspiracy. That there was never a criminal investigation means it’s also just a theory. Much more theoretical than epstein’s “suicide.”



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28 Aug 2019, 8:12 pm

Roboto wrote:
Nothing triggers my AS more than the misuse of the word conspiracy.
By definition, when my wife and I talked about getting a puppy we technically conspired on this.
Sad the word has been bastardized down to where it has and that there’s no suitable synonym.
Taking 9/11 as an example again, even if you believe the 9/11 commission report it is still technically a conspiracy. That there was never a criminal investigation means it’s also just a theory. Much more theoretical than epstein’s “suicide.”
yea thats a good point


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28 Aug 2019, 11:34 pm

The problem with the Epstein situation is many people were predicting he would be murdered via a staged suicide.
So when it is announced he committed suicide, of course many people were suspicious.
Then on top of that several questionable situations come to light that of course added to suspicion.
At the very least the situation appears fishy to many and for good reason.

As far as bullying goes, that takes place in my opinion when remarks are addressed at a person rather than their argument. It starts becoming obvious when certain people do not like someone and want them to stop posting here and start trying to discourage their participation. Often this takes place across several threads and is not limited to the one where it is finally pointed out and or reported.



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29 Aug 2019, 12:37 am

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The problem with the Epstein situation is many people were predicting he would be murdered via a staged suicide.
So when it is announced he committed suicide, of course many people were suspicious.
Then on top of that several questionable situations come to light that of course added to suspicion.
At the very least the situation appears fishy to many and for good reason.

As far as bullying goes, that takes place in my opinion when remarks are addressed at a person rather than their argument. It starts becoming obvious when certain people do not like someone and want them to stop posting here and start trying to discourage their participation. Often this takes place across several threads and is not limited to the one where it is finally pointed out and or reported.
I dont think there was any bullying,things got heated yes but there was no bullying


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29 Aug 2019, 2:14 am

"FBI studies two broken cameras outside cell where Epstein died: source

(Reuters) - Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters.
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https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VI2LC

Fishy.



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29 Aug 2019, 5:27 am

I just read that too


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29 Aug 2019, 6:46 am

As far as fishy goes this situation is pretty high on the stink meter.