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14 Nov 2021, 12:43 am

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This 'Kyle Rittenhouse Trial' is More Than Just

A Trial About A Little Boy Who Found A Big Gun

And Wanted to Prove He Is A Man With Meaning

And Purpose in Life With A Social Role That Counts;

Indeed, It is About The Rest of

A Nation too; And Increasingly

Globe, With Little

Boys Who

Have Never

'Traditionally'

Been Transformed into

Men By Some Commonly Shared

Initiation Rite of Life That Doesn't Include

Actually Killing Folks And Potentially Spending

Years in Jail; And True, When An Entire Country is a Reflection

Of this Human Imbalance; Yes, An Entire Country Will Agree to

Go to War And Kill Over 100,000 Innocent BROWN Folks in an Entirely

Different Country Searching For Weapons of Mass Destruction that

Do Not Exist, Where

A Group of Folks

From Another Country

Killed 3,000 Plus of Our

Folks Ramming OUR Planes

Into OUR Twin Towers/Pentagon Motivating

The Same Kind of Misplaced "Patriotism"

That Inspired That Young Man to Take His

Big Man AR15 Gun And Go Risk His Life to Save

Someone Else's Property;

Just Because He Watched

it On the News, Just Because

He Watched it on the News, Yes,

No Different Really than 'That Pizza Parlor
Conspiracy', Where Another Older Dude

Followed The Same Kind of Idiotic You
Tube News to Take His Big Man Gun And Resolve

A MaNuFacTuReD Problem to Make Money Through

The Same Kind of Conspiracy Theories That A Country

Totally Unrelated to the One That Struck At Us, Had Weapons

Of Mass

Destruction
That Were NOT Any
Real Danger to Our Country then...

It Had Bull CR8P Written All over it Same

As Conspiracy theories Supported By Churches
Where i Live About Vaccines, Where Middle Age
Men are Willing to Give Away 20-Year Jobs With

Retirement Benefits Just to PROVE THEY ARE A MAN OF

GOD, IN THIS INSTANCE; AND Others IN A MADE UP STORY
SPOON FED ALL

THE WAY

FROM Birth

Where By 'THE Way'

They Believe that the

AFTER DEATH PARTY IS
WHERE THE REAL LIFE BEGINS

(Biggest Lie Ever Told in Human

History And Even Catholic Priests/
Monks Like Richard Rohr Agree)

With a Carrot of Heaven and Stick
of Hell Dangled With A Fishing Rod
Before Their Face Chasing it Their Whole

Life and Never

Really Going

Anywhere

At All

In Heaven

On Earth Now

As True It Was ALL A MEtaphor

in the First Place, Tainted By those

Who wanted to Keep THeir Jobs By

MaNiPuLaTiNG The Group Think No Different Really

Than the War in Iraq, And This Little Boy Suffocating

Trying

To Be

A Man

He Will
Never Be

Until He Does
What His Ancestors

Did; And Does it Without
Any Clothes, Without Any Tools

At All; Yes Naked Whole Complete Enough;

Anyway, it DAMN SURE WORKED FOR ME WHEN

i Went

Back to

The Rivers

of Naked Belief;

Yes, Yes, My Father
Was in Law Enforcement;
He Got His Initiation in Part
Through Farm Life, Through
Playing On A High School FootBall
Team, Through Boot Camp In the Army,

Through 46 Years Of Law Enforcement

As My Mother Only Wanted to Raise Children

In a Garden Of Love And He Wanted to Be Rich
With A Wife that Would Work for the Same Goal

As Approved By Capitalistic CuLTuRE;

So he Left at my Age of

3 Before i could Speak
At 4, And Basically

Left me With

my Mother

To Raise

As A Domesticated

Lap Cat So That is What

i Became, Until i Found my

Way Naked Whole Complete

Enough to Grow Teeth and

Claws Along with

The Lap

Cat

of me...

It Wouldn't Be too Hard

to Imagine me as A Cop...

That's What i Get Mistaken

For the Most in 'Real Life'; Even

When i Dance With Colorful Shirts

As Free As A Bird on a Wing in a Store;

Folks tell me i Realize You are Undercover

Security, Yet We Have A Problem Over in Aisle 6;

HAha,

Just like

The Conspiracy

Theories at the
Metro Dance Hall

As They Couldn't Understand
Why a Grown ASS Man Would Be
Dancing With Young Folks For No Reason

at All Solo As i Did

So they Assumed

i Was An Undercover

Narcotics Officer, Haha

or Even FBI; The Conspiracy

Theories Are Still Amusing to me...

Truth is i'm Practically An 'Invisible Man'...

A Mystery

to Them;

Yet Fully
Understood by
me; Don't Be Mastered

By the Tools; Master them
Naked, Whole, Complete, Enough

Like the Google Card Catalog Search
Engine for my Life; Uploading Close to
200,000 Photos All Together And 9.8 MiLLioN
Words All Associated in 98 Months; All i Had to

Do is Search

"Aghogday Toy Gun"

In Key Words to Pull Up
Precisely the Illustrative
Tool i Wanted to Use to Make this Point...

Humans are Basically the Same Evolved
Animal We Were Tens of Thousands of Years

Ago; All That is Generally Separating Us From

The Nightmares or Dreams Put into Fruition

in Years Before

IS THE TOOLS

OF CULTURE

SPOON-FED FROM BIRTH;

OUR LAW AND ORDER;

OUR CHAOS

AND ART;

OUR LIVES, HEAVEN
YES NOW PURGATORY OR
REAL HELL IN THE STREETS OF FIRE...

Anyway, Unless Law and Order Doesn't
Provide A Steep Enough Penalty For this

Infraction of Civil Society Or Riots That Destroy

Folk's Property Where Aimless Young Men And Or Women
Take Advantage Of That Circumstance to Find Some Shallow

Meaning and Purpose

In Life And Even

A Social

Role

As Brief

As A Looter

Destroying Private

Property to get Back at 'The Man'...

We Eventually Will Fall as a Society

And DevolVE iNto A Place WHere Life

Really Isn't Worth Living; And Folks

Will Drag Their Ass ALong as

The Will to

Survive

Is Usually

the Greatest

Will of All; Yet It's

True, Through Cultural

Rules We Have the Ability

to Make Life More Heaven Than

Hell, If We Master The Tools and Do Not
Become Mastered

By What

We Use

to Survive and Thrive...

And Sure, if i wasn't always
The Victor in Every Battle
And Small Skirmish Fought

(EvenTuaLLY)

in Life,

i Might

See the

Need to

Own an

Equalizer

too; So Far No...

Don't Need Any Artificial 'Arms'...

And Nope, Not Even Any Artificial Hips, Knees, or
Ankles After Public Dancing for 15,700 Miles Now in 98 Months;

Yet of Course, i Use the Tool of a Leg Pressing Machine
Up to 1520 Pounds to Avoid That And Easily Curl Over
200 Pounds on Other Machines to Keep My Arms Solid

Enough for the Dance of Life to

continue on...

Like i Said,

Master the Tools...

And Do Not Become a Fool With A Tool...

Not Any Different Really Than 'Steve Bannon'; Yes,
If This Boy/Man Goes Totally Unaccountable For His 'Dirty Deeds';
Nope, It's Not A Favorable Sign For The Continuance of This Country...

Image




That is either a little gun...
Or a big man... :mrgreen:


HAha It's
me At 242 Pounds..;)


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14 Nov 2021, 12:46 am

:lol: You are making us all feel envious Aggie



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14 Nov 2021, 9:48 am

cyberdad wrote:
:lol: You are making us all feel envious Aggie




HeHe, AcTually, i'm Just Crouching Down to Hide my 'Love Handles';

My Wife in the Background (The Eternal Teenager at 51, Now)

Will Verify THAT Non-Posing Reality, HAha;

Plus, Most of the 242 Pounds is my

Frankenstein (Fredenstein) Sized

Forehead That my Wife Terms

A Fredache Maker For Her

When i Go Too Deep At Home

Far Away From This Writing Machine

As She Sends me to my 27.1 Inch iMac
ManCave, Mostly to Write Poetry to Women
Around the Globe; And When She Sent me Off to
Dance at the Metro Dance Hall, Mostly to Make

Other Women Smile too...

As She Says a Little bit
of me at Home, Goes Far Enough...
(After She Basically Sings, SHUT-UP FRED!)

Anyway, Back to the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial,

It iS A VEry Sad 'Indictment' Of American Gun
CuLTuRE And Toxic Patriarchy In Many Ways;

Particularly, the Toxicity, Both Internally And Externally

That Really Comes to Both Young Men And Or Women

With Absent Father's In The Household And Raised By

Media Now, in General,

Instead of what

Was Once A Village

That Prized the Child the Most...

There Are No REAL Winners in this Trial,

No Matter The Verdict, the United States is already the

Loser of Children Raised With More Character, Honor,
And Integrity

Than Using

Guns (And Other
Weapons, Both

Device And
Behavioral)

to Settle Disputes...

And Of Course That Includes
Everyone Involved As Obviously
There Are "Lost Boys" On Both Sides....

-Peter Pan

And That's What Happens to Us
When We Grow Up and Never Really Do....

Anyway, the Toy Gun And Me is a Parody of

American Gun CuLTuRE; "Does this Gun Make me a 'Big Man' Now..."

It's Not the Size that Counts Most; It is the Character, Honor, And Integrity

of What's Inside; However That Possession is Not Nearly As Prized AnyMore in the US

As Obviously

The Leader

That Folks

Pick Is Representative

of Who, 'We the People'

Are At Core; And Of Course

Donald Never Felt 'Big Enough'
For 'Big Daddy Fred', His Father Either...

As My Only Son, Ryan, in '97, Went into Open Heart
Surgery in a 51 Day Life That Yes, Obviously Wasn't
Going to Last Much Longer From the Medical Evidence

At Hand, My Father Sat Beside me in the Waiting Room,

And Told me,"Make Sure You Raise Him Like A Man"; Intimating
That My Mother Never Did A Good Job of that With Me; Of Course,

The Twice Annual Visits With Him Were Spent Watching Him Read
Gun Magazines And Shine His Collection of Guns And Knives that

Would Likely
Put Any Collection
Held by Folks on
The 'Wrong Planet' to Shame...

Anyway, i Was Never About Impressing Dudes...

i've Satisfied Ecstatic Joy in Enough Women's Eyes

to Be Man

Enough

For me

Without A Gun;

And With Poetry

i Don't Even Need
Any Body Parts, Where
Young Women Still Dedicate
Poems to me Lauding A Beautiful Soul;

(Links of Course, Available Upon Request)

If My Father Had Stayed, Instead of Left

At 3, It's Highly Unlikely i Would Have

Brought Ecstatic Smiles to Literally Thousands of
Women's Faces Both in Dance And Song of Poetry

So God

Thanks

Big

Daddy Fred,

For Helping

me to be my
Definition oF A Real

Man, Thanks For Leaving;

No Hard Feelings; Only Beautiful
Smiles i still bring to others... "Mama's

Don't Raise Your Boys to Be Cowboys;"

When My Father Was Still Around, There

is A Picture of me at 3 With Two Toy Guns

(Before i Could Even Speak At Age 4)

In Both Hands; Very Similar to What You
See in the 'Guns And Roses' Video For "Live and Let Die"...

It's True,

Those Who

Live by the
Dance and Song

Thrive Where it Counts

In A Woman's Heart, Soul, And Spirit Most...

Again, i Didn't Come to Survive or Thrive By
Impressing Dudes, Hehe...

My Father Was Married
4 Times, Including Twice
to the Same Woman; He Lived
For Money, Cars, Guns, And Knives

And Selling NASCAR STUFF, at the
Local Flea Market in His Retirement
After 46 Years of Law Enforcement;

When i Fell Ill, Terrified That i Might
Need Some of His Resources From Him,

i Clued Him In on the Fact That i Had
Already Saved 6 Times More Money at
47 Than Him at 75; He Always Complained

i Didn't Have A Money Making Enough Job
For 3 Degrees That He Never Helped A Cent With;

He Asked How In the World i Did it; It Was Pretty Simple;

Keep the Same Wife, Same House, And Same Car; Just Love

Women

Instead
of Spending Money...

Hunting, Fishing, And
Guns Are Really Expensive too...

Yet It's True, if the Supply Chain goes down...

Those Folks Are More Likely to Survive than me...

There is Always More than One LeSSoN, HeaR, Indeed with SMiLes...

With Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia, THE ACTUAL SUICIDE DISEASE
THAT NO DRUG WOULD TOUCH, SHUT-IN MY BEDROOM FOR 66 MONTHS...

i Couldn't Understand

Why No one Loved me

Enough to Give me A Gun
For the Mercy of Escaping

A Dentist Drill in My Right
Eye And Ear From Wake to Sleep

As Far As the Intensity of that Pain... FOR 66 MONTHS;

Fortunate for me AS i See it now, i Had No (NONE) Gun Collection Like my Father;

HAha, my Sister Inherited His Guns; She Practically Has an Armory of Protection, hehe...

Doing Martial Arts At the Military Gym, Knives Are prohibited And Guns of Course too;

i use a Gatorade

(After i Finish
Drinking it)

Bottle; And

Of Course

Never Strike

Anyone, Yet, HAha...

Ya Make Do, With Whatever
Tools Ya Find that Work; It's the Human Condition...

And Of Course, Some Bring Hell, Purgatory, And Heaven...

Yet Really, Our Way of Life in the United States, Is Definitely on Trial Here,

Just for
the World
to Continue to see...

And One Will Assess it
Also By The Remarks of
The Folks in the 'Extended Courthouse Gallery'...

Truly, It is A Fascinating Age Now to Be A Participant
Anthropology Observer, Long Form EPiC Free Verse Poet/'Bible Writer'...

Just For Free
For the Joy
of Being i Am...

-'Thoth'..;)

~Why Go Small...;)



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15 Nov 2021, 1:13 am

^^^what a lucky man you are to have a soulmate. :heart:



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15 Nov 2021, 11:04 am

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^^^what a lucky man you are to have a soulmate. :heart:






Thanks Aunt Blabby,

i Remember A Lady

Early in my Federal
Employment Work

Career Telling me, When i Found
Someone Who Truly Loved me

my Life Would Change So Much

For the Better

And That

Remains

Even More

True, Every Day my FRiEnD...

Love Grows From The Root...

Sadly, Apparently, No One Helped

Kyle Rittenhouse to Achieve That/This Reality...

Truly, It's Usually a Large Part of Why Dudes Go 'Rogue'...

Lack

of Roots

That Spell Real Love...
The 'Kind' That is Not
Only 'Sellfish'/'Buyfish'...

Of Course, i Must Credit

My Mother, Whole, And Holy
And Sacred, InStilling Real Love

In A Man Who Is Her Son and

A Woman Now Who Is Her Daughter too...

Most Everyone

We Encounter

Breathe

the Benefit

of My Mother's

Soul, God Rest HeR
Still Breathing in Us..:)



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15 Nov 2021, 2:15 pm

Brictoria wrote:
Unless they had already produced evidence relating to hunting\hunting licences during the trial, they are not permitted to do that - closing arguments can only refer to evidence\testimony produced during the trial... And neither party made reference to hunting.

At the beginning of the prosecutor's closing arguments, he told the jury, "Rittenhouse was running with a AR-15 that he knew he couldn't have, and was out after curfew.

The defense objected: "Those are no longer charges" and the judge dismissed the objection.


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15 Nov 2021, 4:04 pm

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Brictoria wrote:
Unless they had already produced evidence relating to hunting\hunting licences during the trial, they are not permitted to do that - closing arguments can only refer to evidence\testimony produced during the trial... And neither party made reference to hunting.

At the beginning of the prosecutor's closing arguments, he told the jury, "Rittenhouse was running with a AR-15 that he knew he couldn't have, and was out after curfew.

The defense objected: "Those are no longer charges" and the judge dismissed the objection.


Interesting that in many counties if there's a curfew (following protests or riots) and you are caught running around with a loaded weapon (like Rittenhouse) you are likely to be shot dead. Instead the Kenosha police let him run amok.

The families of the victims will extend the vicarious liability for the deaths of their sons to the police.



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15 Nov 2021, 4:43 pm

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At the beginning of the prosecutor's closing arguments, he told the jury, "Rittenhouse was running with a AR-15 that he knew he couldn't have, and was out after curfew.  The defense objected: "Those are no longer charges" and the judge dismissed the objection.
The judge was right to do so.

Rittenhouse was out after curfew, in illegal possession of an assault weapon.  He forfeits the right to self-defense by instigating the fatal clashes by brandishing this weapon, aiming it at people, and threatening their lives.  He therefore cannot claim self-defense against an alleged "threat" that he created for himself.  Rittenhouse provoked the events that led to his act of murdering of two people and the wounding of another.

Aspie or not, crocodile tears or not, conviction or not, he murdered two people and is a threat to the general public.  He deserves nothing less than the maximum sentences for his crimes.



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15 Nov 2021, 4:52 pm

Fnord wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
At the beginning of the prosecutor's closing arguments, he told the jury, "Rittenhouse was running with a AR-15 that he knew he couldn't have, and was out after curfew.  The defense objected: "Those are no longer charges" and the judge dismissed the objection.
The judge was right to do so.

Rittenhouse was out after curfew, in illegal possession of an assault weapon.  He forfeits the right to self-defense by instigating the fatal clashes by brandishing this weapon, aiming it at people, and threatening their lives. 


If someone was pointing a weapon at me, I would run towards them, yup. <irony> :mrgreen:

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He therefore cannot claim self-defense against an alleged "threat" that he created for himself.  Rittenhouse provoked the events that led to his act of murdering of two people and the wounding of another.

Aspie or not, crocodile tears or not, conviction or not, he murdered two people and is a threat to the general public.  He deserves nothing less than the maximum sentences for his crimes.[/color]


I am not defending him, but believe me, they weren't "crocodile" tears.
The kid is shiteing himself, big time.
Autistic people have poor emotion regulation. 8)



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15 Nov 2021, 5:37 pm

When a cop shoots an unarmed person with a service pistol and claims self-defense, the whole world seems Hell-bent on lynching the cop; but let some teary-eyed mama's boy murder two people with an assault rifle and claim self-defense, and the whole world seems equally Hell-bent on holding him up as both hero and victim.

I would have made up my mind for conviction at the first fake sniffle.



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15 Nov 2021, 5:47 pm

Pepe wrote:
Autistic people have poor emotion regulation. 8)


At what point did Kyle become autistic?



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15 Nov 2021, 5:49 pm

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I would have made up my mind for conviction at the first fake sniffle.[/color]


Seems incongruous he's drinking and openly celebrating with proud boys while on bail and then suddenly becomes a sullen mess when taking the stand. Poor acting.



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15 Nov 2021, 5:50 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Autistic people have poor emotion regulation. 8)
At what point did Kyle become autistic?
It would not be surprising if he became "autistic" soon after securing the advice of his lawyer.



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15 Nov 2021, 5:56 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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I would have made up my mind for conviction at the first fake sniffle.
Seems incongruous he's drinking and openly celebrating with proud boys while on bail and then suddenly becomes a sullen mess when taking the stand.  Poor acting.
"Incongruous"?

See also: "Absurd", "At Odds", "Bizarre", "Clashing", "Conflicting", "Contradictory", "Contrary", "Contrasting", "Different", "Disconsonant", "Discordant", "Discrepant", "Disparate", "Dissimilar", "Dissonant", "Extraneous", "Ill-Matched", "In Opposition", "Inappropriate", "Incompatible", "Inconsistent", "Irreconcilable", "Jarring", "Mismatched", "Not In Harmony", "Odd", "Off-Key", "Out Of Keeping", "Out Of Place", "Strange", "Unharmonious", "Unsuitable", "Unsuited", and just plain "Wrong".


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15 Nov 2021, 5:59 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Autistic people have poor emotion regulation. 8)


At what point did Kyle become autistic?


He isn't? :scratch:
I must have confused this thread with another one.

Well, that changes everything/k.
Hang the Bastardo! <joke> :mrgreen:



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15 Nov 2021, 6:01 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I would have made up my mind for conviction at the first fake sniffle.[/color]


Seems incongruous he's drinking and openly celebrating with proud boys while on bail and then suddenly becomes a sullen mess when taking the stand. Poor acting.


Do you have a link?
Serious question.