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29 Aug 2019, 6:56 am

I never addressed JohnPowell personally. I only addressed what did/what didn’t happen on the George Washington Bridge right after 9/11.

JohnPowell has the right to his opinion. I never made any allusion at all to JohnPowell as a person. I don’t know him at all. Why would I do that?

I don’t bully people here.

I’m not a very political person. I have nothing against conservatives. I have a good friend who is a conservative.

I think Palestine has a point when it comes to its position vis-a-vis Israel and the Middle East. It wasn’t fair that land was taken away from the Palestinians.

I was bullied a lot when I was young. It taught me to respect people.



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29 Aug 2019, 6:57 am

That seems to change the Epstein situation somewhat.



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29 Aug 2019, 7:36 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I never addressed JohnPowell personally. I only addressed what did/what didn’t happen on the George Washington Bridge right after 9/11.

JohnPowell has the right to his opinion. I never made any allusion at all to JohnPowell as a person. I don’t know him at all. Why would I do that?

I don’t bully people here.

I’m not a very political person. I have nothing against conservatives. I have a good friend who is a conservative.

I think Palestine has a point when it comes to its position vis-a-vis Israel and the Middle East. It wasn’t fair that land was taken away from the Palestinians.

I was bullied a lot when I was young. It taught me to respect people.


Relax. I wasn't talking about you.



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29 Aug 2019, 8:43 am

EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I never addressed JohnPowell personally. I only addressed what did/what didn’t happen on the George Washington Bridge right after 9/11.

JohnPowell has the right to his opinion. I never made any allusion at all to JohnPowell as a person. I don’t know him at all. Why would I do that?

I don’t bully people here.

I’m not a very political person. I have nothing against conservatives. I have a good friend who is a conservative.

I think Palestine has a point when it comes to its position vis-a-vis Israel and the Middle East. It wasn’t fair that land was taken away from the Palestinians.

I was bullied a lot when I was young. It taught me to respect people.


Relax. I wasn't talking about you.
I hope your not talking about me either because I was respectfull in my arguements.I never bullied anyone


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29 Aug 2019, 2:33 pm

after the latest poll

34% of americans believe Epstein was murdered

33% of americans believe it was suicide

32% of american are unsure as to what happened to Jeffrey Epstein


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30 Aug 2019, 1:17 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
after the latest poll

34% of americans believe Epstein was murdered

33% of americans believe it was suicide

32% of american are unsure as to what happened to Jeffrey Epstein


Rephrased for relevance.
67% of American are arrogant morons
32% of Americans have a proper functioning brain with valid reasoning tools
1% of Americans are apparently able to click buttons in polls that don't exist



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30 Aug 2019, 2:05 pm

:lol:

Roboto wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
after the latest poll

34% of americans believe Epstein was murdered

33% of americans believe it was suicide

32% of american are unsure as to what happened to Jeffrey Epstein


Rephrased for relevance.
67% of American are arrogant morons
32% of Americans have a proper functioning brain with valid reasoning tools
1% of Americans are apparently able to click buttons in polls that don't exist
LOL :lol:


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31 Aug 2019, 7:38 am

What do people think the next step in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation will be?

Do you think people like prince Andrew and other famous people will be investigated?

Do you think there will be a murder investigation into his death?

Will victims be able to legaly sue his estate that is in trust to his brother


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31 Aug 2019, 8:50 am

as charlie chaplain said 70 years ago and it's even more true today, "it's a wicked, wicked world." the top out of sight "echelons beyond reality" people will continue to live above the law.



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31 Aug 2019, 11:51 am

vermontsavant wrote:
What do people think the next step in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation will be?

Do you think people like prince Andrew and other famous people will be investigated?

Do you think there will be a murder investigation into his death?

Will victims be able to legaly sue his estate that is in trust to his brother

Nothing will happen.
It will fade away into obscurity.
Some victims will get some money one way or another.



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31 Aug 2019, 12:27 pm

Roboto wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
What do people think the next step in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation will be?

Do you think people like prince Andrew and other famous people will be investigated?

Do you think there will be a murder investigation into his death?

Will victims be able to legaly sue his estate that is in trust to his brother

Nothing will happen.
It will fade away into obscurity.
Some victims will get some money one way or another.
your probably right


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31 Aug 2019, 2:45 pm

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Hey, on a related note remember when the FBI supplied the explosives for the 1993 WTC bombing?
That was great work by government. I always believe them. They have the best hearts for the citizens.
LOL.


Good point.


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31 Aug 2019, 2:48 pm

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Had the bridge been packed with explosives, then you'd have a point. It was the van that was packed with explosives. The men were arrested and the van was seized.
they had state troopers guarding the lincoln and holland tunnels and nothing even happened there.it was an hour and a half wait to get through the holland and lincoln tunnels because security was so heavy.

If there was a van filled with bombs on the G.W bridge there would have been extensive security for days after but there was nothing.

Also is this the only example you can give of a goverment cover up in the media


That's just your hoax theory. They were arrested with a van packed with explosives on the George Washington Bridge. I will keep saying it cause it's true. You can concoct as many fantasies and theories as you want as to why you hope it isn't true. Probably more cause you were oblivious to it and felt silly when I posted the news report.

Lol. Iran Contra? The lies before the first Iraq war? The second? The complete silence when the US was supporting the regime in Indonesia when they were wiping out 1/3 of the population in East Timor.
the media once it knew the truth backed that the Iraq war was on false pretenses.now the media knows about reagan's invovement in iran contra.I dont recall any lies before the first gulf war and I am not familiar with indonesia.

those are vast govermental conspiracies not a defeated old man who couldn't face his future who commited suicide


That's garbage. The media pushed the lies until the invasion started and then played dumb and made out there might have been WMD's but they just weren't found. They pushed the anthrax garbage and didn't issue any corrections and no one was held to account.


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31 Aug 2019, 2:49 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Maybe you're right, Roboto.....maybe you're right.....

I wasn't talking about anything else.....but the fact that no one was actually arrested on the GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE right after 9/11. Nothing else.

I'm not debunking a conspiracy, or anything like that. I don't really get deeply into this stuff.

Who knows? Maybe I should? Maybe you might even be right.


But you are 100% wrong and in denial. There's the news reports talking about the men they had in custody and then there's the FBI reports.


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31 Aug 2019, 2:50 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
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John - The people who are unable to see the big picture of the war for profit machine will never understand.
Don't waste your time. These are people who need to keep a narrow view of the world in order to avoid deep depression. It's their self-defense mechanism. It's this nature that allows such horror to occur, but it sadly will never change.
They can't understand how the propaganda machine works and as such they will repeatedly be unable to have an open mind to the reality of the world.
Wars happen because people can't get along with each other and resolve those differences peacfully.Not because there is a for profit war machine.


Thanks for showing your ignorance.


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31 Aug 2019, 2:54 pm

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I have faith in the essential honesty and decency of humans I come in contact with. I don't believe every person is a "conspiracy waiting to happen."

The US, probably, wanted to get at Iraq for its oil. And a variety of other reasons, some of which were not purely altruistic.

There is some evidence that poison gas was used on the Kurds by the Iraqis.


The US already had the oil.

The US and the UK gave them the weapons and supported them when they gassed Kurds.


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