Anyone else sick and tired of being forced to where a mask?

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In the UK fines can be imposed for smoking in a "designated smoke free area" (defined as "public enclosed or substantially enclosed area and workplaces", which includes public service vehicles or those used for work purposes), in the form of a fixed penalty.

For someone smoking in a smoke free area the fixed penalty fine starts at £50 (reduced to £30 if paid within 15 days) or if it becomes a court prosecuted matter, a maximum fine of £200.

Owners/managers are hit harder: not adhering to signage regulations - fixed penalty £200, reduced to £150 if paid within fifteen days. Court prosecuted cases hold a maximum fine level of £1000.
Not maintaining a smoke free place: a maximum penalty of £2500 to the person who manages/controls the area which does not comply with the smoke free legislation. A fixed penalty notice is not appropriate in this situation.

Local councils and where appropriate port health authorities are responsible for enforcing the legislation in their own area.

(this stuff goes on a lot longer with the various definitions etc, but you get the picture)


Soooo - if the wearing of masks becomes a legal requirement like seatbelts etc. then using similar rules/fines as for smoking seems a reasonable place to start.
It may yet come to needing the weight of the law behind it: there are too many "covidiots" running around without any thought for others - or themselves, and that's not unique to the UK.
As many have said - just wear the f*****g mask.

It seems to me that with no smoking people mainly just comply. It doesn't seem like something the police get called about much. Back before Covid when in town I'd see groups of people standing outside pubs and restaurants to smoke. Even during inclement weather. But I imagine that kind of automatic compliance didn't take place overnight.

With masks I've seen compliance steadily growing. Like I said before, the problem with compliance from me was getting into the habit of having one with me and also remembering to put it on. Now it happens automatically.

Should people be required to wear masks when they are walking down the street and no one is near them?

Simple answer - yes.

I treat my home as a secure COVID-free bubble and my wearing a mask when I'm out of it - in any circumstances - is just an extension of it.

I supposed that being a science-fiction fan has helped me see the bigger picture.  I mean, wearing a space suit and cycling through an air-lock with full decontamination protocols in place every time I wanted to go outside would be an extreme case; but not as extreme as being isolated in a huge tin can somewhere in orbit around the Earth for months at a time.  I think that would be cool!

Speaking of 'cool', I grew up in Michigan during a time when the winters were fierce, and going outdoors from December through February without a scarf covering the lower half of my face seemed like a slow form of suicide -- some people actually died every year from cold-induced bronchitis, and I did not want that happening to me.

So wearing 30 to 40 square centimeters of cloth over my mouth and nose is not even a minor inconvenience; it is just something you do.

^ Skiers do it every winter.

So you may know the feeling of rime frost on your eyelashes? That's a weird sensation.

Even weirder...

"Calvin & Hobbes"

At least we don't have to go quite as far as those unfortunate scientists from "The Andromeda Strain"! !

"Extreme sanitation"...

If you can find a copy of Marc Miller's "Agent of The Imperium", you can find out what it means to "scrub" an entire planet...

I was thinking about how face coverings are common during winter anyways.

Anyway fascistic has a horrible purpose behind it.

This is the opposite. To protect those who are more vulnerable.

AFAIK it's illegal to not wear a mask in the UK without a valid excuse in a public building such as a shop. A place where you know everyone.

In practice it's hard to enforce. I blame the fact that you can print the exemption cards off yourself. They ought to be sent out through the NHS to those of us with autism or anxiety etc in our medical files. A lay person shouldn't be allowed to just go on the NAS site and print them off - on the internet nobody knws you're NT a dog.

I tried finding a list of exemptions but I found it ridiculously vague. I've read in multiple places that autism counts, though, so nobody on here from the UK should be complaining about touch sensitivity re masks - just stay home as much as possible & carry an exemption card!

NTs over 10 without mental or physical disabilities have no excuse not to wear a mask. Honestly? With the disability/autism exemptions, I would personally lower that to 5. A 5 yo kid who's reaching developmental milestones etc and doesn't have touch sensitivity should be able to know to keep a mask on just like they should be trusted to keep their shoes on.

An excellent example of this would be people who appeal to Faucis Authority, but denigrate Anders Tegnells
Authority.

Q: So what is it that makes Fauci more authoritative to these posters?

A: Fauci agrees with that posters pre-conceived opinions, thus revealing that the actual determinant of "Authority" is not qualifications nor experience, but whether the expert agrees with that poster and thus they are simply hiding behind the experts opinions.

Nope.

Before you posted this, I had never heard of Anders Tegnells.  A Swedish politician having greater authority in America than an American physician when no one in America has ever heard of the Swedish politician is simply nonsensical.

If you have never heard of him, then self evidently you would not be amongst the set of people denigrating him while promoting Fauci.
The statement was referencing those who do engage in such arguments.

At first people here were not masking, they didn’t take it seriously.Then people started dying from covid.Today only one person in the grocery store without one.
When I went on the feed store two people came in with Trump face masks and proceeded to harass the one person in the building without a mask.I did not expect that, but sure was glad to see it.

Tegnells is the person who advocated a relatively laissez-faire approach to COVID in Sweden

So now are we here in America supposed to drop to our knees and worship this meatball?

Where was he when the first Americans were dying from covid -- slurping lutefisk at some smörgåsbord, perhaps?