13 year old autistic boy arrested for meltdown

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04 Jun 2010, 8:37 am

Unfortunately, I experienced a meltdown so I did nasty things to others. Now I really need to 'siam' off. (Please google 'siam singlish')


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04 Jun 2010, 12:57 pm

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This is nonsense and utterly stupid "one-size-fits-all-no-matter-the-context" style justice. The law is shaped around neurotypicals who intentionally engage in acts of aggression out of vindictiveness or manipulative intent.


While that may be true, though I don't concede that point, it's essentially irrelevant. The peace officer's job is to maintain the peace, and enforce the law. If you have a problem with how the law is developed, fine. But that does not exempt peace officers from discharging their function.

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There is something very different about somebody with marked sensory integration issues (that are known to the school) acting out because of torment and damaging propery due to sensory overload. THE TWO CASES AREN'T EVEN COMPARABLE. It's like saying somebody should be jailed for punching a man who was comming at them with a knife because "fear is not a get out of jail free card".


This goes to my original point, which is that the school bears the responsibility here. They know of the limitations, the police officer does not. It is incumbent upon them to make this information known, or better yet, to take steps from preventing it in the first place.

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The moral depravity of society in general and the "blame the victim" mentality when it comes to bullying in particular disgusts me.


No one's blaming the victim here. He did no wrong, and no court would ever convict him in these circumstances. But even if he was acting as a result of provocation, and subject to a recognized disability, the fact of the matter is that the police officer has to stop the disruption of the peace. Arrest is not the same thing as conviction, and even though we may be shocked at the methods used, I am still left with the question of, "What was the alternative?"

When a person is having a violent meltdown, involving both injury and property damage, just what do you propose that a police officer do? When the police officer's attempts at peaceful intervention result in violence directed at the police officer, what then?

Putting my cynic's hat back on, I have not yet disabused myself of the notion that the school allowed the police officer to remain blind to the particular circumstances of the child, so that they could raise a discipline concern that would allow them to remove the child from the school. How do you get a problem kid out of your school? Simple, allow the problem to escalate.


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08 Jun 2010, 10:42 pm

Meltdowns have a tendency to freak the NTs out when they have probably never seen anything like that before...its scary to them. When I was working in a resteraunt I had several meltdowns over being bullied. I am a really big guy who can yell exremely loud. I scared a couple waitresses who ended up going home early and were still crying when they left. They were standing around when I was yelling at the bully they were not even involved. Strange behavior sets NTs off making them more defensive. Police officers have had to deal with violent individuals just about everyday on their jobs. Many of the violent individuals they had fought with in the past have been mentally unbalanced or on illegal subsitances that impare their judgment. The officer has to defend himself and the public before a violent person stikes out. They have seen strange behavior escalate into violent behavior through out their careers. if I came upon a stranger who is acting in a suspicous manner I put my hand in my pocket gripping my mace to get it ready just to be sure. Thankfully I have never had to use it or sprayed anybody on accident. I can see why the cop sprayed or tased the kid who was acting strangely, I personally believe the school should have told the police officer before hand so he could have handled it better with proper information of the situation,



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15 Jun 2010, 12:08 pm

Personally, I found how the police acted to be out of line for, I can remember when I was a kid and had a meltdown and yes, a police officer thought I was some sort of unruly child whom needed intervention.Anyways, the point is that when dealing with autistic people one should never approach a situation with ignorance nor lack of empathy..



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18 Jun 2010, 7:45 am

Police and schools are, backwards, stupid, and uncaring, and also most police are rogues who think they are above the law, and who go on power trips every time they get into uniform.


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