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Is this true for you?
Yes 4%  4%  [ 19 ]
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natalia
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12 Jun 2006, 7:13 am

this may be tangential, but ...
I have heard that it's impossible to dream (like actual dreams, with pictures and stories, like a movie) in the first moment of falling asleep, but I do that all the time, and I know other supposedly normal people who do it too.

so i think the brain doesn't always do the things that they say it's supposed to...

so maybe when we feel we are daydreaming, we daydream differently, but maybe our brain is relaxing in the way it needs to, instead of the usual way.

this is not very scientific.... sorry.


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12 Jun 2006, 7:17 am

natalia wrote:
so i think the brain doesn't always do the things that they say it's supposed to...

so maybe when we feel we are daydreaming, we daydream differently, but maybe our brain is relaxing in the way it needs to, instead of the usual way.


you said this a lot better then i did.



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15 Jun 2006, 11:20 pm

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake by day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible."
-T.E. Lawrence



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16 Jun 2006, 12:15 am

I am not exactly sure if I daydream or not. There are times when I will be thinking of something and I will get so deep in thought that when I finally come back to reality, I don't even remember where I am. My mind does not usually drift off into random thoughts or things that are normally considered daydreaming. So I guess that I cannot say yes or not on this poll.



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16 Jun 2006, 5:32 am

Diamonddavej wrote:
I believe that the experiment was fundamentally flawed. People with autism can have intense focus and attention. I suspect that when the autistic participants were asked to look at the cross on the screen, the they stared at it so intensely, their mental focus prevented them from daydreaming.

NT’s can’t focus their attention as intensely at autistic, thus NT’s minds wandered and daydreamed during the “boring” task of staring at the cross on the screen.

I’m sure people with autism daydream allot and more so then NT’s. But I accept the possibility that our daydreams are asocial, we dream about our special interests intensely, with great focus e.g. Minerals, Busses, Astronomy, Linux or what ever. Such daydreams are asocial and devoid of social emotions etc. Such daydreaming could use different, logical brain centres. NT’s seem to daydream about people, friends, relationships, all sorts of social issues.

I for one was surprised at the difference between my sleeping dreams and an NT friend’s dreams. I very rarely see other people in my dreams. I dream of places, architecture and environments. My NT friend always dreams about people, friends, social issues.

Thus, I think the experiment was flawed. Autistic’s do dreams but we dream differently (asocial) with perhaps different parts of our logical brains.

Diamond Dave


I like your argument here. I have to say though that in my particular case actually having to focus and harness my brain is so incredibly rare that I take notice anytime I feel compelled to. Think about it, when's the last time anything you did required any real brainpower from you.



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16 Jun 2006, 9:36 am

wow, i always dream about people, yet there is no way iam NT. i mean, even if i went for diagnosis and were declared not AS, i am not normally social by any stretch of the imagination.

it seems so peaceful to dream without people. i wonder if i could make myself do that...

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i always thought we dreamed about what our brains are working on. to put it inelegantly, i thought dreams were sort of the gas and rumblings that your brain gets when it's having trouble digesting things.

the reason i think this is that i often have nightmares (although they are comical once I wake up) about the things that worry me (starting the new semester/ teaching, problematic relatives), and sometimes i dream in a language that i speak badly, but that i am working hard trying to learn.
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17 Jun 2006, 6:09 pm

I agree with Diamonddavej, the experiment does sound as if it was flawed. I know I definitely daydream, and most of my conscious thoughts are daydreams of some sort. :?


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18 Jun 2006, 5:41 pm

Sorry, haven't had time to read the whole topic. I don't think I daydream or I do so very rarely. What is the requirement for something to be a daydream, anyway? I think this is the main thing.

Hrm... My mind does wander. Is that close enough?



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22 Jun 2006, 1:16 am

Daydreaming non-stop is my main problem. First its a visual
process. What I call daydreaming is not random as much as self
directed. I can image anything and see it in my minds eye. I
can build/do anything in my mind. I tend to do it with my eyes open.
You may enjoy a movie or a book but my daydreams are more
interesting to me. There so interesting its all I do:(
Now the random thoughts start right at the moment I begin to
fall a sleep. This is not daydreaming to me but a real dream state.
I rarely remember these random thoughts.



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29 Jun 2006, 1:17 am

I'm a Daydream Believer. I Daydream all the time.



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01 Jul 2006, 7:12 pm

They're drawing the wrong conclusions from this test.
If I was asked to stare at a cross for 21 seconds, while in an MRI scanner, I for sure would be highly focused in starting at the cross and making sure I was doing it properly and not make my mind wander becasue 'I'm doing a test'. I'm not surpirised of results at all, but I'm surprised about the conclusions they draw.
It's bull. I daydream *alot*!



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02 Jul 2006, 7:19 am

I daydream all the time, in fact I find it extremely difficult to focus on most things for more than a couple of minutes at a time. As others have said, it must be the specific task of concentrating on the cross which is causing the temporary gap in daydreaming.



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16 Jul 2006, 3:57 pm

I constantly daydream. I am, in fact, daydreaming as I type this.

I'm finding this test hard to believe anyway, as it was only 30 seconds. The only thing it showed was that NTs can't concentrate on something for 30 seconds. Okey-dokey.

Perhaps we daydream with different parts of our brains though? My daydreams are very complex, so much so that I can't explain them without writing a background, which, at an estimate, would be at least 30 pages. So it wouldn't be a bored section of my mind making it up, no?


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21 Jul 2006, 12:30 am

Fiat_Lux wrote:
I'm a Daydream Believer.


I was just gonna bring that up before I read that post^^^.


Good song, that is. \m/(o_o)\m/



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16 Aug 2006, 9:53 am

That could hardly be less true for me. I have difficulty stopping myself daydreaming, if anything - ideas, imaginary scenarios, replaying scenes from TV and movies.



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16 Aug 2006, 10:08 am

It seems to me that, if anything, daydreaming too MUCH is more of a problem for us. After all, Autism is, fundimentally, a case of being locked in oneself and unable to interact with the _external_ universe. Our inner universe is too consuming and all encompassing.

And of course, the test is highly flawed and proved nothing beyond its extremely contrived conditional circumstances.


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