Brutally attack an Aspie, get let off with community service

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One day when you grow up you will realise that people are discriminated against,beaten,raped,killed etc because they are different from the majority and therefore are entitled to protection.As you go through life you will suffer some of the above and then learn that you were wrong.When we are treated fairly and equally to NTs we can say `Aspergers is just a character trait`.



quote="Simsam114"]Ha. Well, kids get assaulted every day. Do we have to make a difference just because this time, it happens to be a kid with Asperger's who's the victim? It's just as horrible otherwise.

I can't stand how they call it "crimes against disabled people". It's not a disability, it's your character.

We don't need to protest against the bullying of kids with Asperger's: we have to protest against bullying of kids in general... if we're going to protest against this. I won't sign this petition because then we'd have to open up a petition every time a bullying victim gets assaulted and the bullies get a weak punishment, in order to be fair.[/quote]

agmoie wrote;

That "entitled to protection" thing is a Pandora ’s Box. It either implies that personal protection by a government entity, 24/7, is a right or that any tried criminal or civil case against the assailant of someone with said disability should be penalized more severely since the victim is “handicapped”.
It probably implies both.

What are you going to do, issue anyone on the spectrum their own personal cop to protect them? How else would you entitle them personal security which I assume is the spirit if this entitlement?
It doesn’t work that way and to imply that it should or can is a departure from reality in ANY country.

To treat it differently in criminal or civil court than you would otherwise is like one of those “hate crime” things that has holes in it.

I’ve had my share of fights that could only be attributed to my condition but I never once thought I was entitled to anything that I wouldn’t be if I was an NT.

Knock off the victim BS.

Yes. Why not? People die regularly from bullying. However the reason THIS case requires more public outrage is because the punishment is so obscenely light, and a sign of the massive levels of inconsistency in justice meted out. Sign this petition, then sign the others too.

I am no `victim`-I fight back,always have but many of us are not the more agressive type of Aspie like I am.
Perps of Hate Crimes should face heavier tariffs.

Knock off the `I`m all right Jack` BS.

That doesn't address how you practically or legally entitle someone to protection based on a disability AND have it work.
I guess it's the thought that counts, eh......

The same way that all legal protection works? By deterrent. "I wont kick the s**t out of this disabled kid because at the very least I will be arrested, prosecuted and punished severely." It's not foolproof, but if the system insists on removing the part where the assailant is punished then it's not surprising that people have no fear of justice.

My point is not to say that it shouldn't be illegal and punishable to kick the s**t out of someone.

1. It is the job of law enforcement to uphold the law and protect the public in general, not the individual.
2. It should not bring any more of a penalty for assaulting a disabled person, a person of non-Caucasian race, a person of the alternate lifestyle, or whatever, than anyone who is not one of the above.
Regardless of the intent, it implies that the life of one of the above examples is more valuable.
Defining disability and the intent to harm a disabled person can be a legal mess, too. I could go on and on about that itself but it would only fall on deaf ears.

What about degree of vulnerability? Race or dress sense does not make someone more vulnerable, merely a more likely target. Disability can often make the potential victim much much more vulnerable, and a much easier target. The damage done can often be vast, physically and psychologically, even more so in someone who may well already have psychological difficulties.

Anyway, the problem in this case is not that the target has received favourable treatment, but has if anything received quite the opposite. It also creates a new soft target.

By way of an example: for YEARS the police in the UK have shrugged off violence against certain culture groups such as Goths, metallers etc. Not mainstream in other words. It seems to be silently accepted by the authorities that its your own fault for having long hair/wearing black/listening to X group instead of Y group. Thus it became acceptable to attack such groups. Little or no legal repercussions were felt, if such assaults were even reported. Eventually, inevitably, people died. By NOT acting, the authorities give the impression that they will not protect X or Y group. It used to be the case with racial minorities, students, hippies, whoever. Only recently has it started to be accepted that a householder in his own home should have more right to legal protection than the thief breaking in. When the Police and Justice system "shrug it off" then every vicious bastard in the world gets an implied nod and a wink. THAT is the problem with this case.

You're not getting it but whatever. I'm done with this one.
Go ahead and get the last word in because I won't see it.

No, I completely get what you think you're arguing against, but it really isn't the issue here.

I just came across the article. 80 Hours of community service: What the hell kind of punishment is that?

This is at the very least kidnapping (3 day ordeal) and felonious assault (possibly with intent to commit murder). These charges alone would put someone away for a very long time. The mother should be thinking of filing a civil lawsuit against these three assailiants and make them pay for the rest of their lives.