Man not sent to jail due to having AS.

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Please tell me you are kidding.

Do you truly believe that being physically forced, intimidated and threatened has no effect on the mental well-being of the individual in question? I can assure you that it most certainly does, regardless of outside influences.

Nay I say...Nay!
"Do you truly believe that being physically forced, intimidated and threatened..." all those could apply to a mother trying to get there kid to pick up there toys for the first time


Example:

"no desert" that's a threat

(in a raised voice) "do it because I say so" that's intimidation

and as far as physical forcing,i've seen motthers grab there kid's hands and makethem pick a toy up (the kid was throwing a tantrum)

and I guarantee (as silly as it sounds)that if a kid was taught from as early as he could remember that "toys are bad",don't touch those" and so on then he/she would feel the same way the general populace does about sexual offences

People aren't born feeling this way,it's taught

Sex for some reason in considered a taboo it's the same with nudity.Having a seperate set of laws governing a specific part of one's body is ridiculus.It's like saying "we'll fine you 500 dollars more if you hit someone with your right hand rather than left"
I'm not saying rape or any other sexual offece is ok or "should be leagal"...i'm saying that it should be taken on a case to case basis and treated as what it is Assault and holding someone against there will(if it applies in the given situation"

I just thought of something,the increased punishment as compared to regular laws may be another factor of the sex-offense histeria.The number of sex-offenders isn't going up...it's the laws changing so that formerly someone might get 1-3 years they now under new laws are senteced to "up-to" a max of 12 years and have to register there residence with the government for the rest of there lives"im not basing this on one specific case but on the trend of rising laws in the US"

Even if you don't agree,you see what I'm trying to say,right?

The only difference between rape and forcing your kid to pick up a toy is that one involves sex (i'll give you 3 guesses LOL)

Yes I am insensitive,Yes I am very frank but feelings and emotions have no meaning where logic dwells

I believe so, but let me take this one point at a time.

I was speaking in the context of, as you said, rape, molestation, etc. To equate the effects of force, intimidation, and threats by a mother in regard to disciplining her child to the effects of those methods being used by a rapist is absurd.

Regarding the taboo nature of sexuality and nudity, I agree that it is pretty ridiculous. But I certainly do not consider the act of rape something that is simply "taboo". It is the most offensive and most extreme disregard for another human being and absolute lack of respect to their body and their wishes. Now, if you say that doesn't mess someone up mentally and emotionally, then I'm not going to change your mind.

I do not necessarily agree with the some of the sex-offender laws and I certainly don't think there should be an umbrella of offenses that all fall into the same category, but that is another discussion.


Again, comparing these two things and saying they are the same is like comparing stepping on someone's toe and cracking their skull with a baseball bat. The only difference is that one involves their head, correct? I respect your right to say I am wrong, but I certainly do not agree with you.

Even if unintentional you are impling that sex (a completely natural action which some people do alot more than they pick things up,Is a bad thing)

In both situations someone is being forced to do something agaist their will



These feeling are not your own,they were bestowed by your parntal figures and or society as a whole.

I don't mean to use another drawn out example...oh wait,yes I do

when a bully grabs your arm and repeatedly smack you in the face with it,While chanting "quit hitting yourself"...is that not an offensive and extreme disregard for another human being and absolute lack of respect to their body and their wishes.

in my book it is.

and even though these take place at two different body locations does that somehow make one "more extreme" than the other...the only reason you would consider one spot on the body different in any way except biologicaly is through beliefs and feelings.not logic

If society ever wants to truly advance as a whole the must set aside these arcaic and infantile customs...

"The world is not seperated by borders or oceans,ignorance is the great divider"-me (I quoted myself without express written consent LOL)

I do not think that sex is "bad" in any sense of the word and that was not my intention at all, it is how you read it. Societal influences perhaps?

My intention was to illustrate the results of the acts in question. Stepping on someone's toe? Rather benign and harmless (ok, broken toe maybe, but that is an extreme and not what my example was meant to be). Cracking someone's skull? At the very least, head trauma and possibly even death.


And I stand by my assertion that molestation causes much more damage than that of a mother's discipline.


Not at all. Those are my own personal feelings and conclusions from my own brain. I know, however, that you will not believe that no matter what I say.


Of course. The bully is a great example and I was going to bring it up, but got on another tangent instead. I also believe that bullying causes emotional and mental damage to the victim very similar (in nature, but not degree) to that of molestation.

The fact that molestation involves the genitals has no bearing on my assertion that it causes greater damage than discipline. I would state the same about bullying. Bullying causes greater damage than discipline. Molestation causes greater damage than discipline. It has nothing at all to do with the fact that it involves genitalia. Your statement that the only difference is that one of the things involved sex, I believe is wrong. According to your logic, bullying is no different than discipline as well.


And I agree with both of those statements, so were are not totally on different pages here. I can agree to disagree and still stand by you as we fight for that advancement.

I see what you are trying to say about rape not being so horrible outside of cultural norms, but that's totally irrelevant. Just because some 'truth' is based on a cultural norm, doesn't mean it's any less valid than biological 'truth'. 'Natural law' has no place in society today.

Society is an Idiot. LOL

Thank you for Inteligenty conversing the topic with me,I posted something similar on an NT forum and they didn't even give me a chance.They just said things like "get outta here you f*****g freak" and "you're a rapist...aren't ya?"

I respect your right to your own opinions

The guy should go to prison. If he is that low functioning then he is not Aspie then anyway but that's besides the point. We have to live in society like everyone else, so if someone has Aspergers they are going to have to live by the rules like everyone else. Someone with that kind of attraction to children needs to be kept away from society. If he gets by with a minor offense he may next go on to something bigger. He wouldn't be sodomized in prison because anyone convicted of harming children is put into isolation units to protect them.

Yes he does!
He is a paedophile. They're not even worth the bullet!
If he's so ret*d that he doesn't understand something so simple and obvious, he has no place in society anyway and should be removed so that he doesn't hurt other people.
Clearly he's bright enough to be able to handle a computer, he lied to the cops, he knew when the kids were coming, he saw that the girl was scared (not very AS-like), so he has no excuse.

AS or no AS, that's just a lame excuse.
He's probably a psychopat as well, but that doesn't matter either.
He has hurt someone, that's what matters, and therefore he should have a fitting punishment for his crime.

at least he is getting the therapy he needs.

All he did was grab her arm!Charge him with assault,end of story

In Sweden, it's illegal to put mentally ill or people with disorders in jail. However, that has happened on several occasions. One of the most notorious convictions was when the Supreme Court convicted the Serb immigrant Mihaijlo Mihaijlovic to life sentence for stabbing minister of foreign affairs, Anna Lindh, a couple of years ago. He wasn't probably an AS but he sure as hell was mentally ill and had been refused psychiatrical treatment. Ergo: the judges of the Swedish Supreme Court are criminals themselves. Of course, nothing will happen to them for committing this crime.

Mijailovic recently had his Swedish citizenship revoked on his own request, then he rather wants to do his time in Serbia than in Sweden, which has betrayed his legal rights.

We still are subject to the law. Or are we?

Yes, but if the law states a psychically sick person or a person with a disorder can't be sent to jail, then he shouldn't. And that's what the law states in my country. The judges did wrong. They violated the law.