Meanwhile in Holland... grand pedophile case in progress

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13 Apr 2012, 9:06 pm

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He destroyed those childs lives, over 80 children are going to grow up with mental scars that will never go away because of this man. What more reason do you need to kill him?


Well, here's a start: why don't we ask the victimised families if they want him to be killed?

Here's my guess: most of them do not want him to be killed. And so your pretense at sympathy is revealed as bloodlust.

Some people in the world are not gun-toting Americans. They don't need your instructions on how they "ought" to feel. Dutch society decided to abolish the death penalty. They have good reasons for it. They are not going to change their mind just because you do not understand the way they think.



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14 Apr 2012, 7:12 pm

Declension wrote:
abacacus wrote:
He destroyed those childs lives, over 80 children are going to grow up with mental scars that will never go away because of this man. What more reason do you need to kill him?


Well, here's a start: why don't we ask the victimised families if they want him to be killed?

Here's my guess: most of them do not want him to be killed. And so your pretense at sympathy is revealed as bloodlust.

Some people in the world are not gun-toting Americans. They don't need your instructions on how they "ought" to feel. Dutch society decided to abolish the death penalty. They have good reasons for it. They are not going to change their mind just because you do not understand the way they think.


So ask them. In case you don't know this, they are not the law. Neither am I, but that's why I'm just arguing he should be shot and not on a plane trying to get to him.

Bloodlust. mhm. I'm such a vicious murderer :roll:

I'm not American. I am Canadian, I don't carry a gun. In this case, I'd say if they don't feel like this man is a tumour that needs to be removed from life, than they need some help to figure out why they are so sympathetic towards him.


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14 Apr 2012, 7:48 pm

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they need some help to figure out why they are so sympathetic towards him.


There is a large grey area between "I do not feel sympathy for you" and "I want you to be killed".



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14 Apr 2012, 7:55 pm

Declension wrote:
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they need some help to figure out why they are so sympathetic towards him.


There is a large grey area between "I do not feel sympathy for you" and "I want you to be killed".


In the Netherlands, do they have a true life sentence? I'm unsure of that. If they don't, then having him killed is the only realistic way to prevent him from doing this again. Allowing him to do it again=sympathy.


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14 Apr 2012, 8:29 pm

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In the Netherlands, do they have a true life sentence?


Yes, but they're probably not going to give this guy a "life sentence". He will spend the rest of his life in a mental institution, not a prison.



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14 Apr 2012, 8:42 pm

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In the Netherlands, do they have a true life sentence?


Yes, but they're probably not going to give this guy a "life sentence". He will spend the rest of his life in a mental institution, not a prison.

So he can be more comfortable? :roll:

This guy deserves prison. Set him in the general pop and let the guards walk away. The other inmates will see justice done.


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14 Apr 2012, 10:33 pm

Prison, at least in the United States, is supposed to exist for one reason and one reason only; to keep dangerous people away from the general population (which is why I don't approve of people being jailed for pot).

Executing him is debatable; imprisoning him is not a debate. He needs to to be jailed not only for children's safety but possibly for his own. If he gets out of this or even gets out early, there is a strong chance he will be murdered. There is a good chance at least 1 out of 87 of those families would go after him.

If he is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, he needs to get life imprisonment.



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15 Apr 2012, 7:06 am

He's definitely guilty, and they're going to prove that with ease, and he'll be sentenced for a very long time.
Additionally, he'll be given terbeschikkingstelling, which means he can be locked up in an asylum for the rest of his life.

It's just something people enjoy being angry about, really. There is no chance in hell that he'll ever be released.
What I do find interesting, though, is that foreign media know his last name, while all we have to go by is 'Robert M.'

Usually, though, we just read a foreign newspaper to find out the names of people accused of crimes.