Unavoidable Climate Change

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Not at all.

What I am saying is that all those people out there jaw jacking and creating fear lack the qualifications required to speak on the subject.

It is al noise. It is smoke with no light. Not too many years ago persons of the same KleftyL politics were selling global cooling, and had about the seme degree of evidence and press coverage.

Some of you young ones do not remember global cooling, or the populatuon bomb, or any of the other things that were about to destroy the world.

Ask yourself how an "inconvenient" truth all this noise is to wealthy politicals who want greater power over you.

Actually, I was being a smartass, Nutbag.

I don't think global warming is as lightweight a concept as many think it is, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how we act towards the world with the best reasoning and knowledge we have, and I mean that as individuals.

We also should hold up standards for industries to follow as well, with the same best reasoning and knowledge, but that may be a pipe dream. As a person whose family was basically shafted by an industry that knew better but still refused to use basic safety measures in the last century, commerce often wins out over human lives, yet many people are resistant to having basic safety regs for many industries, even though experience and science overwhelming say such things would save lives.

And if Global Warming is real? What the hell can we do about it? Start acting with the best know how we have, and we have a lot, but that doesn't seem possible with humans in charge.

So, I just do what I'm going to do, the best I can do, and let others make up their own mind.

Metta, Rjaye.

lol at Aussie beer being better than American beer

Hi; I have read that scientists think this will be a "New Ice Age",and not really Global Warming, caused by carbon emissions,and that it happens every few centuries,and this will be the 5th one in the history of the planet; we will not be able to avoid it. We do not have to worry about it.As for the weather,that is already changing. The weather patterns in the usa have already very widely altered,over the years. For example, in the state of Oregon, that I live in,it used to rain ten months out of the year. Now it only rains about 5 months. Oregon has become a lot warmer and drier, closer to California. Therefore, my logic tells me, do not worry about it.We cannot alter it. There is also no evidence that mankind will not survive this.

I like to read the variations in the weather patterns over the usa,and the world,it is very interesting. I am sorry that Britain is losing it's shoreline. Florida is going to be underwater,eventually,they said, too. California, I have read, has greatly changed it's good weather,and last few years, has had terrible flooding and much rain,and storms,and even expensive counties have been flooded and ruined. One expert said that the cold spots might become the warm ones,and the hot ones become the cold ones,but that sound like speculation,unless there is already a scientifically decernable pattern,that scientists can already predict will keep evolving in an overlying syndrome,that they can evenually see the outcome of.

Sorry. I do not like runon sentences. Sometimes I write too much.However,it becomes increasingly interesting.

Dynamic stability. The Earth (and good old Sol) oscillate with time. If the Earth was really cold there would be ice in Yosemite Canyon. If really hot it would be as in the days of the 2' dragonfly.

It is always changing, just as a bicycle is always falling either to the right or the left as it oscillates between its poles.

If we are dumb enough to let it kill us, then Darwin wins and we lose appropriately.

Also the delta T which is so oft mentioned is not mathematically supportable as it is smaller than the usable accuracy (lost in the noise floor). The morons propounding this mess do not understand suchlike.

We are rather hopeless at small projects. Nature will always win. global warming is a fact, I used to fish the rivers, I found a dock from the early 1800s, it was two foot below the surface. That works out to over a foot per hundred years over the last two. Nothing to do with industry.

Iraq got Bush reelected, the Democrats need some issue. All is lies.

Our Culture was set 800 years ago. The Black Death came, in many places three out of four died. It was great. The survivors all moved up to bigger houses with better fields. There was a labor shortage, so wages went up. Within a few generations they had repopulated, wages went down, people lived on marginal land, when the Black Death returned and made life good again. From the early 1300s to the last, in 1666, the economy was renewed three or four times.

Then it was the age of exploration and Plague Europeans still had Smallpox, measles, and a few other thing to spread death where ever they went. Columbus touched the mainland once, over ten million died from first contact. When the Spanish returned a few years later, hardly anyone was alive. It was all part of Gods Plan.

The Spanish did complain, thinking god should have left them more slaves.

Climate change is obvious, that is minor, the big issue is fresh water. Africa, India, Asia, will not have enough for their population within thirty years, we are talking drinking water. Most of the unchecked population growth is in the places that will run out of water. The Club of Rome mapped it out fifty years ago, and they are right on target. Drinking water will kill people, and there will be none for crops, and mega famine is coming. It will be propped up till it collapses all at once, and billions will die.

Only Europe, North America, and Australia will not have the problem. There will be a worldwide economic collapase The hope is there will be something like the Spanish Flu of 1918 that might have killed as many as world war two. They died so fast it was hard to keep count. It is projected that the world population will be under a billion in the year 2100.

It is a good plan, but according to the Mayans, the Fifth Age will end December 23, 2013. The cause will be something in the air. Most people will die, the planet will heal, and the Sixth Age starts with a thousand years of peace. The Mayan long count ends on that day. It was started thousands of years ago, and the whole culture was about math and orbits. They said there is something that at long intervals comes around the sun, a flaming serpent, that ends ages. Strangely enough, the Sumarians had the same story, they called it Marduk. Coming in it will be black, it will pass Mars before we notice it, and by then it will be moving fast.

When it comes from behind the sun it's tail will still be touching the sun as it passes mercury and Venus, and it will leave a trail of fire across Earths orbit, and that is what will end the age.

Front row seats are still available, but please make your reservations soon.

The other day I was mentioning Global Warming to my boss, Mister Scrooge. He exploded, as he often does, and started shouting. "Why would I be against Global Warming??" He went on to explain a loss of shorelines will greatly increase the value of properties inland. That an increase in temperature will mean new crops being able to be grown, and lastly that as Southern latitudes become un-liveable, people will want to move northwards. He's investing heavily in property.

What a bloke ! ! Always looks at the bright side ! !

It's 80 degrees fahrenheit in Salt Lake City in the middle of MARCH.

I, for one, am concerned about Global Warming.

janicka, you worry-wart ! !!

Look on the bright side, you'll soon be able to grow yer own coffee in Utah USA ! !!

Prof - I do like biking quite a bit more than skiing, so I guess there is some upside to this.

Seriously, though... UT is a desert, and we rely on a heavy snowpack for our water. We had a longer than usual summer last year (which was taxing on the water supply even tho the snowpack was adequate) and this year the runoff is evaporating before it gets to the reservoirs.

Other than water, the upside seems to be that we have been spared a lot of the natural disasters (like hurricanes, etc.). I'm a bit worried about wildfires, since i lived close to some when I lived in Southern Utah. Still, watching So Cal burn in March like it did last weekend was very disconcerting.

As for water, if I lived in a desert land I'd invest in a well drilling company. Might have some good returns on that investment ...

Those creating fear are the ones that lack qualifications? You mean scientists aren't qualified enough to know what happens to the world? Oh of course, the bible doesn't mention global warming, so why would believe the scientists eh?
'Global cooling' was indeed about 30-40 years ago. You see, SO2 was everywhere around here, preventing sunlight to reach the earth and so indeed cooling the earth. Then, for some reason, politics thought 'SO2, pretty toxic, we must stop producing that' and so they forced manufacturies to stop creating SO2. And after that, due to CO2, the earth's been warming up very, very fast.
You know, for people not educated about global warming, it might be hard to realize the mayor problem, but don't try to be the smartass.

I don't know where you get yer news, pug, but lately there's been a lot of scientists who have come out and said the science behind global warming is rubbish.

I get my news from scientists, so i'm wondering now...where did YOU get your news from?
You know, I don't know one scientist that even doubts the global warming really much.

More like the science behind the alarmist mentality of Global Warming.

I read the internet, like most everyone else does these days.

Drudgereport has carried several stories of 'Climatetologists' doubting Global Warming.