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20 Sep 2014, 11:42 pm

This might be interesting :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDg95uvvhU[/youtube]



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21 Sep 2014, 1:15 pm

B19 wrote:
This issue is really confounding me. ISIS is not a guerilla group existing on self-funding and minimalist living style; it takes a lot of money to do what they are doing. The funding is not coming from Al Quaeda (who kicked them out of their organisation). If you are au fait with international politics and the politics of the current situation in Iraq, what are your considered thoughts on this? There are no obvious candidates so far as I can see.

Please give reasons in support of your answers, thanks in advance :)


War is a very profitable happenstance, and anyone who has sold arms, or wants to earn loads of money would support anything that leads to that end, including financing the cause of wars and conflicts.
When you find out whose weapons they're using, your best bet is to go with that first because the people that supply the weapons are probably also the people that supply the money, and most likely they have a stake in it somewhere else as well, one in which they'd get a return profit.

Greed is the only reason I need to suspect anyone of wanting ISIS to continue what they're doing.


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22 Sep 2014, 4:36 pm

No idea but it does strike me as odd they seem to have sort of come out of the blue with plenty of access to resources and weapons and all that, so I was sort of wondering where the f*** they are getting all their funding as well, I doubt they are hosting fund raisers unless they have enough public executions and having people come pay to watch and that is how they are collecting it....but while they certainly like chopping peoples heads off I doubt even if they did have people buy tickets to see it would provide enough funding for all that.


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23 Sep 2014, 7:45 am

Maybe they broadcast it on pay-for-view.

Or maybe they use the beheadings to demonstrate Ginzu knives ("see how it slices and dices!"). Sorry about the gallows humor.

But yeah it IS rather startling how they vaulted to prominence so fast.

I think part of it is that ISIS mustve struck a secret deal with Assad. Assad is trying to crush multiple rebel factions in his civil war. So he and ISIS must have made a secret non agression pact- ISIS keeps it strongholds in Syria and he doesnt attack them. Nor do they try to expand control in Syria (for now). That frees Assad to focus on crushing the other factions in Syria. And in return ISIS invades Assad's nieghbor across the border in Iraq instead of trying to overthrow Assad. After three years of civil war each faction in Syria is probably better armed than the standing armies of Syria's neighbors.So that plus surprise enabled ISIS to route the Iraqi army in the early stages of its invasion. And there is evidence that Assad actually aids ISIS (in Iraq, if not in Syria). We know he sells them oil.

Its better PR for Assad to have ISIS as an enemy than to have Thomas Jefferson as an enemy. So he wants to eliminate the moderate opposition first, and THEN to be seen to be protecting the west against ISIS later. ISIS gets to take the path of lesser resistence by seizing land and resources in Iraq instead of continuing to try to advance in Syria. So one hand is doubtlessly washing the other. That much is pretty clear.



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23 Sep 2014, 10:37 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Maybe they broadcast it on pay-for-view.

Or maybe they use the beheadings to demonstrate Ginzu knives ("see how it slices and dices!"). Sorry about the gallows humor.

But yeah it IS rather startling how they vaulted to prominence so fast.

I think part of it is that ISIS mustve struck a secret deal with Assad. Assad is trying to crush multiple rebel factions in his civil war. So he and ISIS must have made a secret non agression pact- ISIS keeps it strongholds in Syria and he doesnt attack them. Nor do they try to expand control in Syria (for now). That frees Assad to focus on crushing the other factions in Syria. And in return ISIS invades Assad's nieghbor across the border in Iraq instead of trying to overthrow Assad. After three years of civil war each faction in Syria is probably better armed than the standing armies of Syria's neighbors.So that plus surprise enabled ISIS to route the Iraqi army in the early stages of its invasion. And there is evidence that Assad actually aids ISIS (in Iraq, if not in Syria). We know he sells them oil.

Its better PR for Assad to have ISIS as an enemy than to have Thomas Jefferson as an enemy. So he wants to eliminate the moderate opposition first, and THEN to be seen to be protecting the west against ISIS later. ISIS gets to take the path of lesser resistence by seizing land and resources in Iraq instead of continuing to try to advance in Syria. So one hand is doubtlessly washing the other. That much is pretty clear.


If true, then Assad is playing Russian Roulette, because this situation he would have created will eventually turn on him, then he'll be the guy in the video getting his head cut off.


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