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12 Sep 2014, 10:00 am

The article is an April Fool's prank.

There is no plan for a post-Union Jack.



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12 Sep 2014, 12:12 pm

/\ /\ Speaking of humor, heres a bit. The USA becomes part of the UK ???

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/opinion/w ... ?hpt=hp_c2

"So remember, Americans, if Scotland votes for independence on September 18, let's improve our lives by asking to take their place -- if not officially, then at least in spirit. We hold this truth to be self-evident: Brits have a superior society.
Americans claim we don't want a monarchy, but deep down, we're just as hungry as our British cousins for news about Queen Elizabeth, Princes William and Harry, and those adorable royal babies.
England, will you take us back ?"


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12 Sep 2014, 12:52 pm

That would result in a very interesting flag design! :roll:



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12 Sep 2014, 12:58 pm

Yeah, all the old English colonies of the British Empire should reunite. The UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. We can call it Monty Pythonland. That should give the old queen a thrill. :lol:



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12 Sep 2014, 1:29 pm

Toy_Soldier wrote:
Yeah, all the old English colonies of the British Empire should reunite. The UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. We can call it Monty Pythonland. That should give the old queen a thrill. :lol:


The article suggested the US could be called "StatesLand".
Has a nice ring, doesn't it??


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12 Sep 2014, 1:40 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Toy_Soldier wrote:
Yeah, all the old English colonies of the British Empire should reunite. The UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. We can call it Monty Pythonland. That should give the old queen a thrill. :lol:


The article suggested the US could be called "StatesLand".
Has a nice ring, doesn't it??


I suppose its fitting, but it does seem a bit dull. How about Yanksylvannia or Amerikistan ?



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12 Sep 2014, 4:25 pm

We should make the UK our 51st, 52nd and 53rd states, then our nation would span farther east to west than Russia not to mention the UK dependencies would come as a bonus. :lol: :twisted:



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13 Sep 2014, 5:29 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
/\ /\ Speaking of humor, heres a bit. The USA becomes part of the UK ???

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/12/opinion/w ... ?hpt=hp_c2

"So remember, Americans, if Scotland votes for independence on September 18, let's improve our lives by asking to take their place -- if not officially, then at least in spirit. We hold this truth to be self-evident: Brits have a superior society.
Americans claim we don't want a monarchy, but deep down, we're just as hungry as our British cousins for news about Queen Elizabeth, Princes William and Harry, and those adorable royal babies.
England, will you take us back ?"


New York and of course New England might consider ithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglophile , but I doubt the red states such Texas and Mississippi would want any part of this . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglophobia


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14 Sep 2014, 4:06 am

I'm a big fat NO on this topic, the UK a proud country once the Super power of the planet being broken apart and us English won't get a say (not the first time this has happened). Personally this is just another "Stick it to the English" campaign. I love going to Scotland and I want it to be shared to all of the Country not just for the SNP



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14 Sep 2014, 4:53 am

Here in America we do have experience with close bitterly fought elections. It has resulted political paralysis. Of course Scotland is not America so 750,000 people won't be killed because of a secession http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/scien ... d=all&_r=0 but I can't imagine if thevote is 51% to 49% that bitter feelings won't occur and take along a long time to heal. If Scotland is independent how do they deal with half the population still loyal to Britain?. If Scotland stays in the union a lot of the people will be thinking it was a conspiracy that kept them there. I might be wrong but I would think there would be another referendum fairly quickly.

Wish for you guys cool heads prevail and the right decision is made.


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14 Sep 2014, 12:44 pm

Well, with an estimated 3 Trillion Pounds worth of oil just off shore, they are estimating that Scotland could become the wealthiest country in the world! Even richer than Quatar! That is why UK does not want them to separate.


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14 Sep 2014, 1:39 pm

Here is the text of an email which I sent this afternoon to my English member of parliament - I will post his reply when it arrives!

I have already told you of my concerns about the Islamic Lunatics, and today's news of another beheading is terrifying - they are coming our way, and a 'measured response' will do little to deter them.

We now have Orange marches in Scotland, and in the event of a 'No' vote, I fear that the Troubles makers of Northern Ireland will transfer their attentions to Scotland. And there is little doubt that the assistance which the IRA received from Gadaffi will be more than matched by assistance from the well-armed and well-financed Islamic Lunatics.

I really think that Mr Cameron needs to do more than attend emergency meetings of COBRA, and in the meantime, I think the choice for the Scottish people has become a choice between economic uncertainty and the possibility of decades of violence.


Alex Salmond has created a problem which never really existed - I think he might be remembered in history as a total w*ker. But, on the other hand, he might replace Mel Gibson as the last true Scottish patriot.


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14 Sep 2014, 4:38 pm

MrGrumpy wrote:
Here is the text of an email which I sent this afternoon to my English member of parliament - I will post his reply when it arrives!

I have already told you of my concerns about the Islamic Lunatics, and today's news of another beheading is terrifying - they are coming our way, and a 'measured response' will do little to deter them.

We now have Orange marches in Scotland, and in the event of a 'No' vote, I fear that the Troubles makers of Northern Ireland will transfer their attentions to Scotland. And there is little doubt that the assistance which the IRA received from Gadaffi will be more than matched by assistance from the well-armed and well-financed Islamic Lunatics.

I really think that Mr Cameron needs to do more than attend emergency meetings of COBRA, and in the meantime, I think the choice for the Scottish people has become a choice between economic uncertainty and the possibility of decades of violence.


Alex Salmond has created a problem which never really existed - I think he might be remembered in history as a total w*ker. But, on the other hand, he might replace Mel Gibson as the last true Scottish patriot.


What do you mean, we now have Orange marches in Scotland? Orange Walks are a regular feature of life here - not one I support at all, I would like to see them banned - but if you think they are a new thing because of the Referendum you are completely mistaken and don't know what you're talking about.

Why would a No vote mean that NI will shift their attention to Scotland? The Orange Order is a staunchly Unionist organisation and there have been links between Orangemen in Scotland and NI from the start of the Order.



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14 Sep 2014, 4:43 pm

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What do you mean, we now have Orange marches in Scotland? Orange Walks are a regular feature of life here - not one I support at all....

Wow! I studied the Orange marches in college 30+ years ago! I had no idea that they continue today, especially with how intimidating and hostile they became then. Are they as ugly now?


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14 Sep 2014, 4:48 pm

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What do you mean, we now have Orange marches in Scotland? Orange Walks are a regular feature of life here - not one I support at all....

Wow! I studied the Orange marches in college 30+ years ago! I had no idea that they continue today, especially with how intimidating and hostile they became then. Are they as ugly now?


As I said, I would like to see them banned. For those who support the Orange Lodge and what it stands for, they are a fun day out. For Catholics, they are intimidating and hostile. For those in the middle, they are a nuisance and an embarrassment.

There are more Orange Walks every year in Glasgow than there are in NI.



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14 Sep 2014, 5:27 pm

The fact that Orange marches in Scotland are unremarkable is about to change - whatever the result of the referendum.

If the Yes vote wins, the unionists will feel aggrieved, and if the No vote wins the nationalists will feel aggrieved. Whatever the result, conflict is a very possible outcome. Whatever happens, Mr Salmond will be entirely responsible and I think that the majority of UK citizens will very soon begin to wish that he had never been born.


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