Russia WW3

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I'm worried. Struggling to keep it out of my mind. Mistakes can happen and when things are tense and they're expecting or fearing an attack they'll give themselves less time to react and make a decision. What if something like 9/11 happened during Cold War II? Everyone would assume the Russians were behind it.

I don't take any comfort from the theory that we'd all be vaporized in an instant either. Maybe if you're lucky but you're more likely to be burned or crushed to death, many will be blinded, and the thought of being alongside my children in that situation with no possible place to escape to and no hope of survival is terrifying.

Your not alone. Unfortunately, I think Trump is not selling himself too good right now. Hillary could spell the end, and that will scare me.

The media demonizing the conservative candidates had not only been a threat to potential office holders, but is becoming a real clear danger to all of us.

I wanted to get married, have kids, etc. Probably will never happen.

Yeah. Too bad Trump's a pathetic excuse for a human being.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/d ... iol-229819

CIA planning cyberattacks against Russia to retaliate for Putin's supposed "interference in the election":

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia ... a_20161015



Of course, it will be the sheep who take it in the shorts in any Russian retaliation, cyber and/or physical. If electricity and banking are cyber-blown up by Russia, that will be lucky. Unlucky is where Russia nukes us off the face of the earth before we can react, and makes Putin the conquering hero to a world populace that has had it up to HERE with American imperialism.

This article puts these fears of war to rest:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... g-for-war/

The war is underway just not in The Day After kind of way most people think

The CIA is Preparing for a Major Cyberattack Against Russia

America have nuclear submarines (ssbn) on patrol as a constantly moving deterrent, in a nuclear attack the bases they return to will be smouldering radioactive heaps of rubble but chances are you'll be able to react if they haven't been tailed and taken out (not likely) and quite a valuable portion of russia will get wiped off the face of the earth in return so they won't be itching to pull the trigger unless they can stomach such a price to pay.

I'm scared. It's all over the radio that all signs are pointing to us going to war with Russia no matter who is picked in the election. My question is - what does it mean to "go to war" these days since we have nuclear weapons? Do we just get blown up and it's over? I think this could be the end.

There are no signs that we are about to go to war with Russia.

Mikah has made some rather good points about this in another thread and I added my analysis here:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=331081&p=7338115#p7338115
It's long, so the TLDR is: Putin is consolidating power and strengthening Russia, most of this saber rattling is aimed at an internal Russian audience.

The Murdoch-type "news as entertainment media" outlets will all say breathless crap about WWIII because they think it will get pageviews and sell papers and airtime. People like Chomsky will say that everything is dangerous and could lead to THE END unless people less to his fringe ideas, but people like him have been saying the same thing during every administration and every political situation since the 1960s, and I don't think there is any reason to think this round of "the sky is falling" cries are any more valid than the last hundred rounds.

The prospect of global death is emotive and people are working that to advance their propaganda objectives and sales targets. Nowhere does the current strategic or tactical picture look like actual preparation for war, though the Russian moves in the Baltic region have been impressive.

Forget about whether it's true or not. If we do go to war, does that mean we get blown up and that's it? I just want to know how war happens these days. Or is there a ground war? We're not dealing with little bombs anymore.

If you are asking: what happens if the United States and Russia engage in all out war, then the answer is, no one knows.

It would almost certainly involve a ground war, but that might go nuclear within minutes or hours.

Weapons tech is affected by Moore's law and things have been changing continuously since the cold war. We don't really know the full capability of our own military because large parts of it are secret. The now ancient stealth technology that came out in the first Gulf War had been around for along time before the public was made aware of the F117 Nighthawk.

You may have been aware of advances in Anti Ballistic Missile systems launched from Aegis cruisers and F15s, but none of us has been privy to the full data from all the testing that has been done in that area.

You may have been aware of the development and deployment of high energy laser weapons, notably on the USS Ponce, but energy weapons are also an area that is mostly not public.

So, no one knows.

But the US and NATO forces are generally seen as capable of defeating a Russian attack at a heavy cost. It's hard to imagine a commander on either side accepting heavy losses and severe threat to their homeland without resorting to nuclear weapons, and there are still plenty of those, so such a war would likely end in the destruction of most cities in both countries, though ABM systems on both sides may prevent some warheads from reaching their targets.

Cold war plans on both sides called for massive overkill with cities like New York and Moscow being targeted by many tens of warheads each of which would devastate the city. It's unlikely that things have changed that much though the US is sufficiently confident in targeting that it may plan to hit comparable targets with fewer warheads than the Russian plans call for. On the other hand, some deep bunkers and command infrastructure have been targeted with multiple warheads to ensure penetration and destruction, so...

No one wants this to happen, so it is unlikely. No one knows with certainty how it would happen if it ever came to that.

I think it's a fair bet that anyone in a major metropolitan area in the belligerent nations would be dead in the first few hours of such a conflict and that global problems form fallout would impact everyone else within days. New Zealand might be a good vacation spot if you had the means to get there, but flight time for ICBMs is much shorter than flight time to New Zealand so that's not a realistic bug out option.

I would strongly recommend not worrying about this.

For a perspective on NATOs vulnerability to Russian conventional arms: http://warontherocks.com/2016/04/outnum ... eats-nato/

Uh, I'm getting really sick. I don't want to die a virgin all lonely. Sorry for being a broken record, but there is no evidence you can reclaim your sexuality in some afterlife.

I'm feeling so scared and uncomfortable. And we're only weeks or months away from the possible end.

Somebody help me.

Dude, you need a break. Go do something you like to do and stay away from the news and any social media until you feel you can handle it again. I go through the same thing and have to take a break. They've even said that people are getting so upset over this election that they are losing friends and have to get away from the social media and any news outlets. So you're not alone in feeling the way you are. Go watch something funny.