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20 Jan 2019, 2:27 pm

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The old man got in his face banging his drum. He literally did nothing. How is that disrespectful?

The old man disrespected him by getting in his face.

Sounds like an eye for an eye rather than turning the other cheek, even if you are correct.


None of you have actually said what this kid has done wrong. Apparently being white and wearing a MAGA hat makes you guilty.



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20 Jan 2019, 2:55 pm

Sad we live in a world where expressing your fee speech in wearing a hat gets you harrasssed, insulted, attacked and labeled a racist.



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20 Jan 2019, 2:58 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
AspE wrote:
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The old man got in his face banging his drum. He literally did nothing. How is that disrespectful?

The old man disrespected him by getting in his face.

Sounds like an eye for an eye rather than turning the other cheek, even if you are correct.


None of you have actually said what this kid has done wrong. Apparently being white and wearing a MAGA hat makes you guilty.


They were sneering and mocking him while he was marching in an attempt to draw attention to the continued oppression of Native Americans in the US. Their chanting over him shows blatant disrespect for his message.


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20 Jan 2019, 3:03 pm

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They were sneering and mocking him while he was marching in an attempt to draw attention to the continued oppression of Native Americans in the US. Their chanting over him shows blatant disrespect for his message.


Some of them may have been but not the main kid. At the end of the day he is an adult who thought it was acceptable to get into the face of a young boy.



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20 Jan 2019, 3:21 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
AspE wrote:
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The old man got in his face banging his drum. He literally did nothing. How is that disrespectful?

The old man disrespected him by getting in his face.

Sounds like an eye for an eye rather than turning the other cheek, even if you are correct.


None of you have actually said what this kid has done wrong. Apparently being white and wearing a MAGA hat makes you guilty.


We acknowledge that you are likely on the spectrum and may not be able to recognize body language, facial expressions, and socially unacceptable behaviour. So, several of us have patiently taken the time to explain it to you.


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20 Jan 2019, 3:24 pm

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Sad we live in a world where expressing your fee speech in wearing a hat gets you harrasssed, insulted, attacked and labeled a racist.


Yeah.. definitely. Except for the fact that that hat has become a symbol of racism & white supremacy.

That’s why some MAGA hat wearing jerk was refused service in a local restaurant here in Vancouver. 8)

Anyone who does not want to be associated with racism and white supremacy should not wear such a hat.


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20 Jan 2019, 3:27 pm

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We acknowledge that you are likely on the spectrum and may not be able to recognize body language, facial expressions, and socially unacceptable behaviour. So, several of us have patiently taken the time to explain it to you.


He stood there smiling whilst the man invaded his personal space and banged a drug in front of him. All any of you have said is that he is wearing a MAGA hat and that he is white (therefore guilty) and the other guy is native American (Therefore a perpetual victim).



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20 Jan 2019, 3:41 pm

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Not true. The kid was just standing there when the old guy started banging the drum in his face and chanting.
The kid was a MAGA white supremacist who shows no respect for anyone other than mite males. That he would show such disrespect to an elder and a veteran, shows how truly idiotic this MAGA types really are.


Maybe you should do some research. Those Native Americans were yelling at the kids and telling them to "go back to Europe."

https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/01/19/ ... V0m7ngVHBU

Imagine a white guy saying "go back to Africa" to a black man. That person would get called out by the media for sure.

But here we have some high school kids in MAGA hats minding their own business. Some Indian comes up banging a drum and chanting at them. Somehow it's the kids' fault.

The MSM are clearly liars.


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20 Jan 2019, 3:58 pm

Another perspective on the incident.


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20 Jan 2019, 4:03 pm

Nathan Phillips was not alone:

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Both of the individuals were displaying a certain amount of passive aggressiveness towards each other.



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20 Jan 2019, 4:11 pm

BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
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Not true. The kid was just standing there when the old guy started banging the drum in his face and chanting.
The kid was a MAGA white supremacist who shows no respect for anyone other than mite males. That he would show such disrespect to an elder and a veteran, shows how truly idiotic this MAGA types really are.


Maybe you should do some research. Those Native Americans were yelling at the kids and telling them to "go back to Europe."

https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/01/19/ ... V0m7ngVHBU

Imagine a white guy saying "go back to Africa" to a black man. That person would get called out by the media for sure.

But here we have some high school kids in MAGA hats minding their own business. Some Indian comes up banging a drum and chanting at them. Somehow it's the kids' fault.

The MSM are clearly liars.


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Another perspective on the incident.


As I suspected there was more to this than was presented. Good research guys.



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20 Jan 2019, 4:13 pm

There's a whole more to this story than is currently being reported. I would think the black preacher's homophobic rant and the use of the word "fa***t" would be mentioned by the MSM, but apparently not.


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20 Jan 2019, 4:15 pm

EzraS wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Not true. The kid was just standing there when the old guy started banging the drum in his face and chanting.
The kid was a MAGA white supremacist who shows no respect for anyone other than mite males. That he would show such disrespect to an elder and a veteran, shows how truly idiotic this MAGA types really are.


Maybe you should do some research. Those Native Americans were yelling at the kids and telling them to "go back to Europe."

https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/01/19/ ... V0m7ngVHBU

Imagine a white guy saying "go back to Africa" to a black man. That person would get called out by the media for sure.

But here we have some high school kids in MAGA hats minding their own business. Some Indian comes up banging a drum and chanting at them. Somehow it's the kids' fault.

The MSM are clearly liars.


VegetableMan wrote:
Another perspective on the incident.


As I suspected there was more to this than was presented. Good research guys.




Too many people don't research further, sadly.


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20 Jan 2019, 4:16 pm

Ok, so we have the Natives and the MAGA people having some sort of something in proximity to each other, but who were the lovely gentlemen with the beards shouting about incest and "f*ggots"? Children of Israel? I saw a few Rastafari looking people, any relation? I thought Rastafaris were generally pretty chill.


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20 Jan 2019, 4:18 pm

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Ok, so we have the Natives and the MAGA people having some sort of something in proximity to each other, but who were the lovely gentlemen with the beards shouting about incest and "f*ggots"? Children of Israel? I saw a few Rastafari looking people, any relation? I thought Rastafaris were generally pretty chill.


Black Israelites. I think they consider blacks to be the real Jews they are extremist I watched a video of one punch a left wing white women with no hesitation or remorse.



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20 Jan 2019, 4:19 pm

Native American leader of Michigan: 'Mob mentality' in students was 'scary'

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Speaking to the Free Press by phone, Phillips, 64, of Ypsilanti, explained what happened after 5 p.m. Friday during the Indigenous Peoples' March he was attending and spoke of his history working for the cause of Native American people.

He gave new details about an incident that sparked outrage and criticism from a range of groups.

Prior to what is seen on the now-viral video, Phillips said he was in D.C. attending a Native American rally. Near the end of rally, he said he tried to keep the peace between a group of mostly white students attending a March for Life event and a gathering of about four black members of a religious group known as the Black Hebrew Israelites.

Phillips, a former Marine, said the incident started as a group of Catholic students from Kentucky were observing the Black Israelites talk, and started to get upset at their speeches. The Catholic group then got bigger and bigger, with more than 100 assembled at one point, he said.

"They witnessed these individuals on their soapbox saying what they had to say," Phillips said. "They didn't agree with it and got offended."

Then, things got heated.

"They were in the process of attacking these four black individuals," Phillip said. "I was there and I was witnessing all of this ... As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you're faced with that choice of right or wrong. "

Phillips said some of the members of the Black Hebrew group were also acting up, "saying some harsh things" and that one member spit in the direction of the Catholic students. "So I put myself in between that, between a rock and hard place," he said.

But then, the crowd of mostly male students turned their anger towards Phillips.

"There was that moment when I realized I've put myself between beast and prey," Phillips said. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that."

he crowd of students, some of whom wore MAGA caps, mocked Native Americans while chanting "Build the Wall" and using derogatory language, he said. The students had a "mob mentality" that "was scary," Phillips said. "It was ugly, what these kids were involved in. It was racism. It was hatred. It was scary."

Speaking from his niece's home, Phillips said: "I'm a Marine Corps veteran and I know what that mob mentality can be like. That's where it was at. It got to a point where they just needed something for them to ... just tear them apart. I mean, it was that ugly."

Phillips said he recalled "the looks in these young men's faces ... I mean, if you go back and look at the lynchings that was done (in America) ...and you'd see the faces on the people ... The glee and the hatred in their faces, that's what these faces looked like."

"When I took that drum and started singing, I placed myself in between these two factions of people. It wasn't a real conscious process, it was just what they call a spur of the moment."

Phillips said the blame for the incident is with the students' chaperones.

"If their own instructors, their own teachers, their own chaperones, would have handled the situation right from the beginning, it would never have happened," Phillips said. "I would have never been bothered with it."


Covington Catholic could expel students who taunted Native American man in viral video
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The Kentucky high school students seen in a video mocking a Native American man at a march in Washington, D.C., could be expelled.

Covington Catholic High School and the Diocese of Covington said Saturday that they are investigating the incident that happened at the Indigenous Peoples March on Friday.

"We will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion," the statement said.

The school and diocese apologized to the man in the video, identified as Vietnam veteran and Native American elder Nathan Phillips.

"We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general," the statement said. "... We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person."

Covington Catholic is an all-boys private high school in Northern Kentucky.

Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes took to Twitter to condemn the incident. Grimes said she is "a proud alumnae" of a Catholic high school and called on Covington Catholic to "denounce this behavior."

"In spite of these horrific scenes, I refuse to shame and solely blame these children for this type of behavior," Grimes said. "Instead, I turn to the adults and administration that are charged with teaching them, and to those who are silently letting others promote this behavior. This is not the Kentucky we know and love."

News of the incident at the march did not surprise Angela Arnett-Garner, who said she is part Shawnee and who helped organize Kentucky's first Indigenous Peoples Day celebration in 2017, as well as the first Indigenous Peoples Day event in Louisville last year.

She pointed to the controversy over President Donald Trump calling Sen. Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas" because the Massachusetts Democrat has claimed she has Native American ancestry.

"I'm not surprised at all," at this incident in D.C., Arnett-Garner said. "The racism in this country after Trump took office has just exploded. People feel like they're entitled to be racist and demonstrate their racist views."

State Senate Minority Leader Morgan McGarvey, a Louisville Democrat, tweeted the incident "is embarrassing and wrong."

"Yes, these kids should apologize and (hopefully) learn from this," McGarvey wrote. "However, we also can't excuse the leaders who normalize this conduct. We all should do better...especially on MLK weekend."


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