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11 Aug 2019, 3:17 pm

"No man has the right to take his own life, only the state has that right."



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11 Aug 2019, 3:35 pm

It could've been a suicide. Or it could've been a murder. Lots of powerful people would have liked to see him vanish from the public scrutiny.


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11 Aug 2019, 9:33 pm

This is all I will say: The Clintons are the luckiest people on earth.

The average citizen can't even hope a cop won't show up for a contested speeding ticket. But since Hillary ( not Bill ) rose to power, in her own right, every whiff of a scandal or criminal charge has disappeared. I'm surprised Epstein lasted as long as he did. And as soon as I heard that he was going to start naming names, I knew his days were numbered.


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12 Aug 2019, 2:35 am

vermontsavant wrote:
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He was murdered. This isn't Naked Gun. Barak, Clinton's, Wexner, Mandelson and others must be relieved.
I have no problem believing that someone paid the guards to kill him or just look the other way when he killed himself.But whats the motive,Epstein was not scheduled to testify against anyone.Who wanted him dead,as far as I know no one would benifit from his death and no one was worried about what he might tell the feds.none of the people you mention above have ever been viewed as legit coconspiritors by any stretch


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12 Aug 2019, 11:08 am

Israel more like.


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12 Aug 2019, 12:08 pm

This is too bad.
Was really looking forward to a lot of people's idols being exposed as the dirtbags that they are.



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12 Aug 2019, 2:08 pm

The only benefit to killing him would be erasing information that presumably only he knew.

-Locations of evidence (crime scenes, bodies?)
-Testimony against someone or someones more powerful (heads of states, heads of corporations, large collections of people)
-connecting together things that may seem isolated (events, people, corporations)

I don’t think the question is what are the Clintons or the President trying to hide. Their stuff is already out on blast. Seems to me that what people need to be wondering is what knowledge could he have shared to save himself that now has been stifled? It’s probably something out of left field that none of us would think of.



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12 Aug 2019, 2:22 pm

I heard the FBI is investigating his death and apparentley there is dirt on prince Andrew.however the latest conclusion on his death right now is corections officers were over worked during the time of his death.


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12 Aug 2019, 5:05 pm

Yeah right


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12 Aug 2019, 5:22 pm

Never attribute to conspiracy that which is more readily explained by negligence and complacency.



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12 Aug 2019, 5:30 pm

Fnord wrote:
Never attribute to conspiracy that which is more readily explained by negligence and complacency.


Somebody already posted that comment.


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12 Aug 2019, 7:10 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
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Never attribute to conspiracy that which is more readily explained by negligence and complacency.


Somebody already posted that comment.


Somethings bear repeating. :D :D :D


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12 Aug 2019, 7:18 pm

just another silencing of the truth. evil continues in the shadows, never to be exposed to the light of day.



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12 Aug 2019, 7:45 pm

What We Know So Far:

• Epstein's body was found on Saturday morning at approximately 7:30 a.m. (EDT) at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan.

• Epstein's death was a suicide by hanging.

• Epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death -- Epstein was left alone and not closely monitored.

• A judge denied Epstein bail in mid-July after deeming him an extraordinary flight risk.

• The day before his death, a trove of previously sealed documents were made public by a federal appeals court, revealing stunning new details about Epstein's sex crimes and his inner circle of enablers. The documents were part of a deposition from a woman who claims Epstein kept her as a sex slave.

• Despite an autopsy having been performed, Epstein's official cause of death has not been declared, as the Medical Examiner’s Office needs further information.

• Epstein’s sudden death does not mean his co-conspirators will be let off the hook. Federal prosecutors are continuing their investigation, and a growing body of evidence could lead them to other targets.

Anything beyond this is mere speculation.



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12 Aug 2019, 8:07 pm

It’s not uncommon for people to kill themselves right after being removed from suicide watch.My nephew hung himself the day after he was taken off it.He was in the state hospital and they put him to work folding sheets.Later they found him hanging by one.It happens.
I am very sorry the victims didn’t get to face him in court.


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12 Aug 2019, 8:10 pm

Misslizard wrote:
It’s not uncommon for people to kill themselves right after being removed from suicide watch. My nephew hung himself the day after he was taken off it. He was in the state hospital and they put him to work folding sheets.Later they found him hanging by one. It happens. I am very sorry the victims didn’t get to face him in court.
They certainly deserve better.