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23 Oct 2019, 3:31 pm
Ah yes, lies make you feel better so lies must be facts now. It's a political party, not a reality TV celebrity's cult. As a rule, I don't believe anything anyone says about politics in the United States anymore. You as Republicans are not entitled to determine for everyone else what's "OK" & what isn't.
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23 Oct 2019, 3:42 pm
cberg wrote:
I don't believe anything anyone says about politics in the United States anymore.
That really scares me. Because it's like nobody really knows what's going on with our country's government now.
23 Oct 2019, 3:58 pm
blazingstar wrote:
One of the problems is experiential and perspective. If you lived through Vietnam, the draft, Nixon, civil rights struggles, women's rights struggles that were all going on in the 60s, you have a different perspective. Things that seem obvious to us, are not obvious to others. Each generation comes anew, and sees the world from what has happened in their lives only. This is not a criticism. It is just a point of view. When we were young, we though people at the age we are now, to be dinosaurs, who knew nothing about life. 
For those of us in the latter states of life, can you imagine what life would be like if our current president was the only president in your adult experience? What reference would you have for what is "normal."
For those of us in the latter states of life, can you imagine what life would be like if our current president was the only president in your adult experience? What reference would you have for what is "normal."
Yep. Certain individuals on WP who are under a certain age have absolutely no concept of how bizarre the Trump presidency is.
I am sure that there were teenage citizens of Rome, back in the day, who would see the mad emperor Caligula do things like make his horse a voting member of the Roman Senate ….and not even bat an eyelash., because they wouldn't know any better:lol:
23 Oct 2019, 4:03 pm
23 Oct 2019, 4:19 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
blazingstar wrote:
One of the problems is experiential and perspective. If you lived through Vietnam, the draft, Nixon, civil rights struggles, women's rights struggles that were all going on in the 60s, you have a different perspective. Things that seem obvious to us, are not obvious to others. Each generation comes anew, and sees the world from what has happened in their lives only. This is not a criticism. It is just a point of view. When we were young, we though people at the age we are now, to be dinosaurs, who knew nothing about life.
For those of us in the latter states of life, can you imagine what life would be like if our current president was the only president in your adult experience? What reference would you have for what is "normal."
For those of us in the latter states of life, can you imagine what life would be like if our current president was the only president in your adult experience? What reference would you have for what is "normal."
Yep. Certain individuals on WP who are under a certain age have absolutely no concept of how bizarre the Trump presidency is.
I am sure that there were teenage citizens of Rome, back in the day, who would see the mad emperor Caligula do things like make his horse a voting member of the Roman Senate ….and not even bat an eyelash., because they wouldn't know any better:lol:
And once I start remembering...the threat of nuclear bombs...we were the first children to grow up with that threat. Which scare was it, naturalplastic, where they were saying there was radiation in the snow and we shouldn't catch snowflakes on our tongues? Remember the nuclear threat drills at school, where we filed into the corridors and sat on the floor and put our heads down. Really? And the Cuban Missile Crisis, when we literally were scared to death of the Russians and were minutes from a nuclear strike. The space race with the Russians. And when Kennedy was killed, my fifth grade teacher spent an entire day talking about how vulnerable we were. It was terrifying.
And our parents had been through WWII. My grandfather through WWI. They spoke to us in personal experience of war and the threats to our way of life in America.
Children growing up in the past 50 years of relative peace have no idea. They can brush all this stuff off and not believe it because they have benefited from the peace that was created and negotiated by previous generations who understood the risks their children brush off now.
Geez, I really sound like an old lady now.
23 Oct 2019, 6:27 pm
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24 Oct 2019, 3:03 am
beneficii wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Could of fooled me.
I agree. Whatever Ezra is, he is a pretty clear Trump supporter. That means he's going to share a lot in common with, and share common cause with, other Trump supporters. We can still note tendencies in Trump supporters that we see in Ezra.
I think this is very common for young white men, to see themselves as completely independent and as someone who must be considered completely independently of any social or cultural factors.
His stubbornness in this regard can make conversation with him frustrating.
Boom!
Your second sentence captures the self-centredness of the average Trump voter very articulately
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