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vermontsavant
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27 Aug 2020, 5:52 pm

eyelessshiver wrote:
No, absolutely not. You cannot make this legal. Even if you think it's ok if they're consenting adults (which seems ridiculous to me anyway). Here's why:

Say you make "sex between family members legal, if they're consenting adults".

A sexually disturbed parent or older family member can feel sexual attraction to their younger family member, and "groom" the kid until they're "of age" and then initiate a sexual relationship with them (raise them to think this is ok and even expected, during impressionable years). Of course if it's legal then it'll now be validated by the government (horrible idea). This would start to be a common thing, it would be awful.

Looking at this case is the tip of the iceberg. It's quite possible this happened earlier on between these two, going all the way back to when he was a kid. They probably didn't just develop these feelings over night.

Parents could raise their kids saying "ok, well it's your job when you're 18 to do these things with mommy and daddy". Hell, they might even abuse them earlier on and tell them they can't say anything until they're 18.

This just muddies the waters to make it legal *on any level* for family members to have sex. It's wrong and it should not be legal.

20 years prison time is *probably a little extreme* and I doubt that's what anyone will be getting here.
No none said incest should be legal,we just said;They won't get 20 years


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27 Aug 2020, 5:56 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I dont get laws against incest. The real issue I see is the cheating.


What about abuse?
It was consensual and both parties were decades above age of consent,there was no abuse in this case.


Really? Adults don't abuse each other? Consent becomes very complex in these cases.



it is not abuse if they both consented.


Not if she had been grooming her son, then it is not consensual even if he did agree. Abused partners can also agree to abuse, but that also does not make the relationship consensual. Incest is abuse, regardless if the participants think they are consenting. This is not an issue with shades of gray.



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27 Aug 2020, 6:24 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
eyelessshiver wrote:
No, absolutely not. You cannot make this legal. Even if you think it's ok if they're consenting adults (which seems ridiculous to me anyway). Here's why:

Say you make "sex between family members legal, if they're consenting adults".

A sexually disturbed parent or older family member can feel sexual attraction to their younger family member, and "groom" the kid until they're "of age" and then initiate a sexual relationship with them (raise them to think this is ok and even expected, during impressionable years). Of course if it's legal then it'll now be validated by the government (horrible idea). This would start to be a common thing, it would be awful.

Looking at this case is the tip of the iceberg. It's quite possible this happened earlier on between these two, going all the way back to when he was a kid. They probably didn't just develop these feelings over night.

Parents could raise their kids saying "ok, well it's your job when you're 18 to do these things with mommy and daddy". Hell, they might even abuse them earlier on and tell them they can't say anything until they're 18.

This just muddies the waters to make it legal *on any level* for family members to have sex. It's wrong and it should not be legal.

20 years prison time is *probably a little extreme* and I doubt that's what anyone will be getting here.
No none said incest should be legal,we just said;They won't get 20 years


I saw one person say basically "I don't get laws against incest, cheating is the problem"...and saw others defending that this was a consensual act and not harming anyone...



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28 Aug 2020, 2:55 am

eyelessshiver wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
eyelessshiver wrote:
No, absolutely not. You cannot make this legal. Even if you think it's ok if they're consenting adults (which seems ridiculous to me anyway). Here's why:

Say you make "sex between family members legal, if they're consenting adults".

A sexually disturbed parent or older family member can feel sexual attraction to their younger family member, and "groom" the kid until they're "of age" and then initiate a sexual relationship with them (raise them to think this is ok and even expected, during impressionable years). Of course if it's legal then it'll now be validated by the government (horrible idea). This would start to be a common thing, it would be awful.

Looking at this case is the tip of the iceberg. It's quite possible this happened earlier on between these two, going all the way back to when he was a kid. They probably didn't just develop these feelings over night.

Parents could raise their kids saying "ok, well it's your job when you're 18 to do these things with mommy and daddy". Hell, they might even abuse them earlier on and tell them they can't say anything until they're 18.

This just muddies the waters to make it legal *on any level* for family members to have sex. It's wrong and it should not be legal.

20 years prison time is *probably a little extreme* and I doubt that's what anyone will be getting here.
No none said incest should be legal,we just said;They won't get 20 years


I saw one person say basically "I don't get laws against incest, cheating is the problem"...and saw others defending that this was a consensual act and not harming anyone...
Ok


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