4 In 5 Britons Say Anti-Vaxers Should Face Prosecution

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Its interesting because most people here are on the autism spectrum, some don’t want to be cured & are against the idea of the government taking control of their body against their will.

So forced vaccinations are crossing a Rubicon in terms of who owns your body, yourself or your government?
Once that is crossed a whole lot of other stuff will come down the line in the future I guarantee.

Autistic people could be considered a burden and the gov could forcefully give them something that will make them less of a burden but may have unpleasant side effects.

The other question is free speech & people`s freedom to voice an opinion on if the vaccine that may be valid.

I just think people need to stop doing the 'Game theory what? Ew... stop trying to make humans into machines or algorithms'. Getting it's too important. Unfortunately without using that lens there's very little of real use that can be seen.

Another small tack on to that point, maybe a clarifier or what it means in this situation, we always have a particular portion of society that tends toward predatory behavior. People who prefer to play it that way look for the levers of power and any places where they have other people at a disadvantage. From that perspective expertise in any institution tends to be under constant attempts at capturing it's name-power for other purposes. A couple decades ago the hot topic was things like intelligent design trying to supersede evolution and it was discussed in terms of anti-intellectualism, at this point the disinformation's gotten a lot more multifaceted and you could think of this like every corporation, every politician, every lobbying group, every PAC pretty much distorting the airwaves with information that suits their ends first. That's how something like Covid gets strangely politicized or how people have some strange strategic space to jam it into based on their political power models. I'm half afraid they could politicize an earth quake, volcano, or even an asteroid at this point.

It's because the people back then were dumber than they are today. And medicine then was"meh" by todays standards.

I don't feel governmental control in the "West" since the advent of COVID is "unprecedented."

When was their a time when all such measures were taken before?

I don't think people were literally much dumber back then - but without germ theory, they couldn't understand how the plague spread and what to do to successfully stop it.

Those people were ignorant (of germ theory), not "dumb".  When you understand that the first commercial antibiotic was a 20th-century discovery, and that many people still believe that illnesses are cause by "evil spirits" or "G^D's wrath", you may also come to understand that ignorance is merely a lack of knowledge, while being "dumb" (or "stupid") involves a willful choice to dismiss reality and/or belief in superstitious nonsense.

Maybe plague isn’t the best example but the death rate is still very low for young people and those with no health issues. So, it’s still a valid point. Forcing people to take something into their blood is a violation of their human right, so is indirectly forcing by coercion by banning from workplaces, schools and shops.

This vaccine simply hasn’t been around long enough to check against long term issues, vaccines usually take 10 years to develop, which includes monitoring over many years.

If someone is in a high risk group then sure take the vaccine but giving something forcefully to tens / hundreds of millions of people who are of very low risk of serious illness / dying is reckless.

If this vaccine is so good 95% protection then those who choose to be vaccinated have little to fear from those who don’t. Of course, you`ll get some extremists who will shout about the 5% but too bad.

Yes, such good news about the American Moderna vaccine proving so successful in all age groups. The UK has ordered 5 million doses, but will need to wait till next Spring to receive it. Meanwhile 50million of the Pfizer jabs are due soon, and first doses will be administered soon. My ex-father-in-law(who has passed away), was Managing Director of Upjohn Pharmaceuticals, which is now Pfizer and would make regular trips out to Kalamazoo where they’ve been working on the vaccine. The UK has secured 90 million doses in total (Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-could-be-vaccinated-against-covid-19-as-uk-secures-strong-portfolio-of-promising-vaccines#:~:text=Announced%20by%20Business%20Secretary%20Alok,protect%20people%20against%20coronavirus.

Uni students in London, including my son who is currently in lockdown there are celebrating the news of both the vaccine and of Trump’s imminent departure from the White House. It’s cheered their spirits no end apparently.

Prosecution? More like execution.

I've had with these idiots. I heard the coronavirus vaccine will need to be given to 95% of the world's population in order for it to be effective, and since there are clearly more than 5% of people in the world who would rather believe some insanity a brain-dead, drug addicted "celebrity" says instead of scientists and doctors who have been actually studying and working to create a vaccine, we are royally screwed. They should all be thrown into a gas chamber where they'll get a taste of what it's like to have covid 19 as they struggle to breathe and suffer horribly.

Seriously, these foil hat-wearing morons think they're going to inject mind-control microchips into us with the vaccine. Don't they know the microchip would be about the size of a grain of rice? It would be pretty difficult and quite painful to inject that into your body.

I know you should keep an open mind, but if you keep it too open, your brain will fall out. Especially if it's a pea brain.

You are my new enemy.

I you, Lostonearth !

Round them all up and put them into concentration camps.

For unethical medical experiments leading to new vaccines.

This.

Dumber seems like an unfair oversimplification.