12 Nov 2021, 10:22 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Yes China has contributed (no doubt)
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wh ... ate-change
But number one on that list on emissions since 1850 is the USA. By a long way. Big business blocking alternative energy research will be one of the legacies we will live with (keep in mind if Tesla coils or some other alternative technology became common place in the US at the turn of the 20th century then it would have been adopted by the Chinese).
The Chinese are equally worried about the future (they are also in the same boat as us and have nowhere to go)
https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/ch ... 021-11-10/
However according to scientists it's too late.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wh ... ate-change
But number one on that list on emissions since 1850 is the USA. By a long way. Big business blocking alternative energy research will be one of the legacies we will live with (keep in mind if Tesla coils or some other alternative technology became common place in the US at the turn of the 20th century then it would have been adopted by the Chinese).
The Chinese are equally worried about the future (they are also in the same boat as us and have nowhere to go)
https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/ch ... 021-11-10/
However according to scientists it's too late.
"Believe in the science."
Well, now that there is nothing we can do about it, let's have a party!
Scientific modelling has been wrong before (e.g. in the 1960s predicting there would be mass starvation due to overpopulation and pollution) so I actually hope you are right. But it doesn't look good.
12 Nov 2021, 11:31 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Yes China has contributed (no doubt)
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wh ... ate-change
But number one on that list on emissions since 1850 is the USA. By a long way. Big business blocking alternative energy research will be one of the legacies we will live with (keep in mind if Tesla coils or some other alternative technology became common place in the US at the turn of the 20th century then it would have been adopted by the Chinese).
The Chinese are equally worried about the future (they are also in the same boat as us and have nowhere to go)
https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/ch ... 021-11-10/
However according to scientists it's too late.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-wh ... ate-change
But number one on that list on emissions since 1850 is the USA. By a long way. Big business blocking alternative energy research will be one of the legacies we will live with (keep in mind if Tesla coils or some other alternative technology became common place in the US at the turn of the 20th century then it would have been adopted by the Chinese).
The Chinese are equally worried about the future (they are also in the same boat as us and have nowhere to go)
https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/ch ... 021-11-10/
However according to scientists it's too late.
"Believe in the science."
Well, now that there is nothing we can do about it, let's have a party!
Scientific modelling has been wrong before (e.g. in the 1960s predicting there would be mass starvation due to overpopulation and pollution) so I actually hope you are right. But it doesn't look good.
Could the real cyberdad raise his hand?
Sweetleaf
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12 Nov 2021, 11:42 pm
13 Nov 2021, 12:30 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
That seems optimistic, maybe too optimistic.
This is what is concerning me
13 Nov 2021, 2:08 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
That seems optimistic, maybe too optimistic.
Let us meet in 11 years time, and have a chat about it.
goldfish21
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Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
18 Nov 2021, 12:27 pm
This local article nails it:
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... et-to-come
Cliffs: There are clear signs we’re F’d and people are still ignoring the climate crisis like it’s nbd.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.
18 Nov 2021, 12:43 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
That seems optimistic, maybe too optimistic.
This is what is concerning me
This is a satellite image of Muir Glacier, Alaska I got off Google maps:
18 Nov 2021, 2:24 pm
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
That seems optimistic, maybe too optimistic.
This is what is concerning me
This is a satellite image of Muir Glacier, Alaska I got off Google maps:
May I ask what point you are making, if any?
18 Nov 2021, 3:17 pm
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
That seems optimistic, maybe too optimistic.
This is what is concerning me
This is a satellite image of Muir Glacier, Alaska I got off Google maps:
May I ask what point you are making, if any?
I'm noticing that it's a small area that's within hundreds of miles of ice.
18 Nov 2021, 6:04 pm
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
That seems optimistic, maybe too optimistic.
This is what is concerning me
This is a satellite image of Muir Glacier, Alaska I got off Google maps:
May I ask what point you are making, if any?
I'm noticing that it's a small area that's within hundreds of miles of ice.
All I see is a blob
19 Nov 2021, 5:21 am
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
This is a satellite image of Muir Glacier, Alaska I got off Google maps:
I'm noticing that it's a small area that's within hundreds of miles of ice.
All I see is a blob
The part within the red rectangle is the melted Muir Glacier. All the white areas around it are glacier ice. In other words, only a small portion of low altitude glacier ice that connects to a river has melted. It doesn't look particularly catastrophic considering the vast amount of glacier ice that's still in that area of Alaska.
19 Nov 2021, 7:21 pm
19 Nov 2021, 8:15 pm
19 Nov 2021, 9:33 pm
cyberdad wrote:
seasonal ice melt is one thing but permanent change in glacier mass is a problem
http://www.arcticsystem.no/en/outsidewo ... lting.html
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-do-we-kno ... e_products
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... aster-pace
http://www.arcticsystem.no/en/outsidewo ... lting.html
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-do-we-kno ... e_products
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... aster-pace
Khill, dude.
20 Nov 2021, 6:26 am
20 Nov 2021, 8:00 am
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