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09 Jan 2022, 2:21 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

Goes to show you that education doesn't always equate intelligence. Besides, I suspect most of those Trump voter's degrees are in business. :mrgreen:

Not to mention many of those owing debts to the now dysfunctional trump University who still voted for the man who stole their parent's life savings.

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09 Jan 2022, 2:23 am

cyberdad wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Goes to show you that education doesn't always equate intelligence. Besides, I suspect most of those Trump voter's degrees are in business. :mrgreen:

Not to mention many of those owing debts to the now dysfunctional trump University who still voted for the man who stole their parent's life savings.

If so, then that's pathetically sad.

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09 Jan 2022, 11:26 pm

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@ Kraichgauer / Cyberdad - one important factor to look at , when it comes to people who are "college educated", is what the degree is, and what school it's from. Some "college educations" are a PHD in organic chemistry from a regionally accredited university, and some "college educations" are taking two semesters of liberal arts from an unaccredited online college before dropping out. I'd be curious to know the exact details of their "college educations".

I think the demographic data requires the person to acknowledge they graduated from a recognised college but I'm also 100% sure this is self-report so without seeing the survey questions it could easily include people who attended non-recognised colleges (e.g. College of naturopathy or English as a second language) or people who dropped out after first year.

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10 Jan 2022, 6:22 am

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Given how bad of a leader Donald Trump was during his tenure, I admit that I have a new appreciation
for George W. Bush AND Dick Cheney. :wink:

I never thought you guys would elect a president that made Bush look like a genius by comparison! :lol:

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10 Jan 2022, 8:22 am

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Considering that I favor wealth redistribution, high marginal tax rates, and robust social programs,

Then why do you favor the Republican party?

The things you've listed above are among the main things Republicans (especially the Republican donor class) have tended to be against.

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10 Jan 2022, 6:04 pm

Cornflake wrote:

Once again, a thread has had several posts removed because of their incessant off-topic arguing, petty comments and personal attacks.

Another thread received the same treatment a few hours ago and there's at least one more awaiting review.
Of these three threads, two were subject to reports about the (removed) content.

Derailing a thread like this is incredibly selfish, quite apart from any upset caused to others seeing the bickering and arguing - it has to stop.

It would be unfair to the others remaining on-topic and somehow, avoiding arguments, to lock every thread derailed in this way.

If this disruption continues we will have to consider issuing warnings which accumulated, will ultimately result in a temporary suspension of posting privileges.

Unlocked.

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10 Jan 2022, 6:11 pm

Thanks for getting this thread back on topic.

It's quite reasonable for fortmer GOP leaders to be shocked and disappointed by both the Trump administration + the post-Trump GOP leadership who seem to have carried the flame of deplorable policies.

The sheer number of GOP senators/congress who continue to support myths of stolen ballots, Q inspired democrat conspiracies or who are instigating parents to attack teachers trying to do their job educating their children is quite frankly an embarrassment.

Dick Cheney is simply stating the obvious.

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10 Jan 2022, 6:25 pm

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Dick Cheney is simply stating the obvious.

People responsible for the the horrendous crime Cheney And Bush perpetrated should not even have a platform to wag their fingers at others, since they did far more damage to this country than Trump was capable of in four years.

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10 Jan 2022, 6:30 pm

VegetableMan wrote:

Both Cheney and Bush have platform because of they have previously held important positions in a standing republican government. My understanding is that they still hold some level of respect by both members of the republican party and with republican voters. Therefore when they speak republican voters listen.

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10 Jan 2022, 6:36 pm

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That doesn't negate my point.

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10 Jan 2022, 7:29 pm

I can't help but wonder, if the Bush Cheney years were as bad as they're being portrayed now, how did Bush get re-elected?

Regardless of whether they should have a platform, the fact remains that they do have a platform.

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uncommondenominator wrote:

"Self-reported" always makes me slightly suspicious, particularly in large data sets. Self-reporting requires the person answering knowing what they're talking about, and being accurate and honest. Some people may genuinely believe that their degree is more credible than it is. Some people may genuinely believe that a semester of music appreciation and weightlifting classifies as "some college". Some people may just be lying, counting on nobody checking.

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10 Jan 2022, 7:39 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:

Because most Americans are living in a dream world where politics are concerned. They don't really pat attention to what actually happens in Congress, they just listen to the pundits on either the left or right who are spouting divisive propaganda designed to maintain the partisan divide.

How did Obama get elected for a second term after all the horrible things he did in his first?

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10 Jan 2022, 7:41 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:

Regardless of whether they should have a platform, the fact remains that they do have a platform.

It's easy to dig up dirt on both former politicians. But it doesn't invalidate their influence within the republican party.

It's worth noting that Marjorie Taylor Greene has been banned from Twitter and Donald Trump have been banned from both Facebook and Twitter. for spreading misinformation and violating their code of conduct/ethical standards. That in itself should send a reminder to the 75 million pro-Trump voters to at least reflect on what Cheney is saying.

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10 Jan 2022, 7:44 pm

VegetableMan wrote:

uncommondenominator wrote:

It would seem that what you consider "horrible" about Obama or Bush or Cheney doesn't stack up/line up against Trump and his cronies.

Based on your yardstick there hasn't been a single leader in the US since Washington who would meet your somewhat "high" standards of integrity.

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10 Jan 2022, 7:55 pm

cyberdad wrote:

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uncommondenominator wrote:

I refuse to be an apologist for presidents responsible for so much death and misery. At least Trump, as bad he was, didn't start a new war. Bush got us into two, Obama five!

Stick to Australian politics please, because you're a mile over your head when discussing American politics.

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10 Jan 2022, 8:13 pm

VegetableMan wrote:

uncommondenominator wrote:

And yet, Trump didn't. Weird.

cyberdad wrote:

uncommondenominator wrote:

Regardless of whether they should have a platform, the fact remains that they do have a platform.

It's interesting how fast the narrative switches from "cancel culture is bad, even if you don't like them" to "they're too evil and don't deserve a platform". Here's hoping Cheney's words do actually do some good.

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