Girl: Mom forced genitalia piercing

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Clearly the real enemy here is Christianity. In the Immortal words of Voltaire:

"It is an infantile superstition of the human spirit that virginity would be thought a virtue and not the barrier that separates ignorance from knowledge. "

Not innocent? What were her crimes then? And yes, just because she's a child having sex with her is sexual abuse, and becasue she is not old enough to really consent, it is rape. No matter what her mum and the molester (or even the girl herself) say about her. It's so incredibly sick to make this child responsible for being raped. It's sickening to read people suggesting that her mother's attempt to 'control' her were in any way justified.

Not only is being able to have consenting sex not the same thing as knowing right from wrong, a child (even an adult) can not consent to having sex with someone they depend upon.

Raped? Dispite what the law may say a thirteen year old is perfectly capable of understanding what sex is and participating in it willingly. It's 'statitory' rape, but everyone is America knows teens will have sex if they want to, and yes that means with adults. Once again I say the boyfriend was sick for sleeping with a young teenager, as an adult he should have restrained himself, but the fact remains she may have consended. In fact, from what I read, she most likely did.

A parent has the right to teach their child the morals they want, and that includes sex. What this mother did was beyond inappropriate, it's abuse. I never once said it wasn't, all I said was that it was a failed attempt by the mother to gain control. A sick and twisted attempt too.

There was no consent considering their relation, it was the mother's boyfriend, she was in a dependent position and he abused this position. It was sexual abuse, no matter how much you try to condone or excuse it by saying she might have consented.

A parent does not have a right to abuse or maim a child. Parents do have the obligation to protect their children and this mother not only failed to do so, but is (indirectly) blaming her child for what her boyfriend did to the girl. Sick.

He doesn't seem to have yet been the mother's boyfriend at the time.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2007/oct ... her_charg/

And he wasn't the only one the girl was having sex with.


It should also be noted that the mother was acquitted, due primarily to things which were omitted from or distorted in the story which was posted. And the daughter seems to have changed her story, leaving out little details like having consented to the piercing.


So at least one guy should be doing some time for violating age of consent laws, but not for abusing a quasi-parental relationship, which didn't exist at the time, or for anything resembling forcible rape. And the mom's actions seem to have been badly distorted by the press. It was a weird story all right, but not the scandalous outrage that they turned it into.

This article made me nauseous--literally.

Tim

The same article says:




But how is that relevant to any of this? She was 13, there is no consenting sex between an adult and a 13 year old teenager, they are just not equal enough for real consent. Why do you thing there exists laws against adults having sex with children (younger then ~16) - even in more liberal countries?
What do we know about her reasons or compulsions for her alleged promiscuity - and how come the victim is being accused here? Do you think this family was anything close to normal? Just consider for a moment that the mother wasn't upset with her boyfriend, but with her daughter. You consider that not outrageous?

Zwerf, we aren't saying that what the mother did was right, but from what geek posted, this is an obviously slanted story. The girl consended to being pierced, had the affair with the boy before the man dated the mom, and lied to the police about a number of issues. From what was given we were led to assume she was tied down and forcibly pirced, and now we see that isn't the case. There is no good guy in this story, the mother was wrong, the byfriend was wrong, the girl was wrong.

I don't mean to seem cynical, but have you seen teens today? A shocking of thirteen year olds, some younger, act like complete sluts. They get caught up in this hype around them that sex is okay, and to be popular you must put out. It's not pretty, or something people like to talk about, but in this day and age kids that age just aren't that innocent anymore. Once again, I say to clarify I am not justifying the mans actions. He was the adult, he should have controlled himself. We're only saying that thirteen year olds know what they want and will get it just as easily as a 23 year old will.

Not to throw gasoline on the fire, but circumcision was done to reduce sexual urges. The foreskin is a functioning part of a sexual organ. And while some hygeine issues may be involved, there is no real medical reason for the practice to be done. But you're right, they're not done out of spite, they're done at the request of well-meaning parents. This is a topic separate from that thread.

That mother is one sick woman.

Female circumcision is not medically good and always dangerous for the girl. Iagree with the comment about the lazy mother.