School Expels Girl for Having Gay Parents

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23 Sep 2005, 6:17 pm

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I don't see any reason to expel this girl, even if I am wary of the gay movement and all it entails. As long as her parents do not force their lifestyle on the other members of the school (even if it is a private, Christian school), I don't see anything wrong with her attending the school.
That's because you are not a bigot.



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23 Sep 2005, 6:35 pm

I feel that kids have the right to get their Education at any School of their choice, regardless of the Sexual orientation of their parents. If Homosexuality is immoral in Religious Scripts, than why does God allow Homosexuals to be on this Planet?



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23 Sep 2005, 6:58 pm

I wish I could be at Saint Peter's Gate when these anti-homosexual bigots get there, fully expecting to be ushered right in, but instead finding themselves sent to burn in the fires of Hell forever!


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23 Sep 2005, 7:07 pm

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If Homosexuality is immoral in Religious Scripts, than why does God allow Homosexuals to be on this Planet?
Just to pick on your logic a little, that one doesn't work. God allows lots of folks to be on this planet whose behavior is clearly wrong. I just don't agree with those who thinkthat gays are such.

What two (or more) adults do sexually is their own business. I do not claim to be one with the mind of God, but it surely does not violate me or anyone else I can think of.



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23 Sep 2005, 7:10 pm

ed wrote:
I wish I could be at Saint Peter's Gate when these anti-homosexual bigots get there, fully expecting to be ushered right in, but instead finding themselves sent to burn in the fires of Hell forever!
I feel that about a lot of folks.



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23 Sep 2005, 7:31 pm

it is our prayer that this is taken in the spirit that it is proffered;

bunny's truly believe that if not on earth, then in heaven; there is more than enough love and forgiveness to go around. with each step that fiver takes, she asks the nameless one for help in not wishing ill will upon any who she shares this world with. this as even if she did do all else right; the one act of wishing for another's downfall may bring about her own.

mine is the only soul that i can help. and only from heaven may i truly help another.......

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23 Sep 2005, 7:34 pm

I totally and completely disagree with their policies, but it is a private school and they can do whatever they like. It is sad and disappointing that it has to be like that, though. :(



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23 Sep 2005, 7:42 pm

It seems that the School had a 'tact deficit'. Surely they could have engineered other ways of 'expelling' the girl, if they had been of a mind to do so. I suspect that this may have been a PR stunt, in order to garner the approval of other, more traditionally-minded parents who send their children to the school.

This is bound to cause a stink among the chattering classes and I rather suspect that were this to happen in the UK, the Guardian would have to be distributed as a massively-compressed PDF file on a dual-layer DVD, just to get in all the letters of indignation.

We had something like this last summer in the UK, a small B&B Owner declined to rent accommodation designed for a couple to two men who wanted to book the room. The reason the bruhaha was caused, is because the proprietor (a Mr Tom Forrester), had clearly stated on his business web site that rooms with double beds were strictly for heterosexual/mixed-sex couples only. He reserved the right to offer the two men a room with two single beds, but that was deemed to be 'not good enough'. The whole farce was deliberately engineered by the two men, since they knew in advance that they would not be welcome there, and sure enough (perhaps because it was August and so therefore technically the Silly Season), all the press ran with the 'non-story' and even some governmental spokesmen were saying that they would rush through yet another piece of reactive, ill-considered and potentially dangerous 'legislation' in the aftermath of this latest affront to liberal sensibilities.


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23 Sep 2005, 8:32 pm

Stupid bigots! I would bet money that if one of the parents was a convicted child molester (repentant or not) but otherwise a regular male+female relationship, she woudl be allowed to attend the school.



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23 Sep 2005, 8:52 pm

eamonn wrote:
Oh and id ban anyone who is anti-hetro



anti hetro=anti gaybashing. Old argument, standard usenet crap.


Well we will all have to be happy you are not in charge. :)



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23 Sep 2005, 8:54 pm

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LOL, i think im pretty confident of telling the difference. Though lots of people have been caught out, look at that Anastasia (i think that's his name, He was Miss Israel) fella getting so far in miss world.


' Dana International, Really did your reserach huh? :)


And she is legally female in Israel too. You keep losing, :)


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23 Sep 2005, 9:29 pm

Tak wrote:

anti hetro=anti gaybashing. Old argument, standard usenet crap.

Well we will all have to be happy you are not in charge. :)


Here we go with your bigoted hate again. :roll:



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23 Sep 2005, 10:11 pm

I don't think that the gir should have been expelled since she had no choice in who she was raised by, but I also think that the school should have reached some understanding (not by intimidation) about not advertising that her mother is a lesbian (I don't see any reason to give the other partner any kind of recognition in the matter). It would probably good if her mother wasn't actively involved with the school as well. Special ceremonies and parent-teacher conferences excluded.

What's the name of this school? Ontario is only about 30 miles from here.



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23 Sep 2005, 10:27 pm

This bizarre way of talking is confusing.



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24 Sep 2005, 8:37 am

what the school had done is wrong, of that I have no doubts, alls I was saying is to me it seems that if they (the parents) give up being with the opposite sex as a mate then they should give up on having the benefits that come with it (having children), male or female, I am always afraid the parents (if its the same sex child) will abuse the child, or worst yet the child will want to be like their parents and decide the gay life is for them as well before knowing what normal is in the nature of human relationships (within reason).



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24 Sep 2005, 2:09 pm

Thank you, aspergian_mutant, for stating your position in a reasonable voice. I hope we all can continue this discussion in the same calm voice.



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worst yet the child will want to be like their parents and decide the gay life is for them as well before knowing what normal is in the nature of human relationships (within reason).

I'm pretty sure studies have been done that show this is not the case. Children in gay families tend to experient with gay sex more often then children in straight families but ultimately are gay, bi, or whatever in about the same % as the population as a whole. Even if they did turn out gay in a larger % I don't see how that is bad.


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I am always afraid the parents (if its the same sex child) will abuse the child,

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Are you suggesting that hetro family should split when the children hit puberty? The male children go with the father and the female children go with the mother? Would this not be the logical flip side of this concern?

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