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03 Oct 2008, 5:06 pm

One way or another, I think the US will appropriate that Middle Eastern oil. I can almost guarantee it will happen. But what does this all have to do with the Eid bombing?



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03 Oct 2008, 5:12 pm

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will appropriate that Middle Eastern oil.


Murder rape and theft.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:13 pm

slowmutant wrote:
But what does this all have to do with the Eid bombing?


Leverage.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:13 pm

Hashberry wrote:
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will appropriate that Middle Eastern oil.


Murder rape and theft.


Indeed.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:14 pm

slowmutant wrote:
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will appropriate that Middle Eastern oil.


Murder rape and theft.


Indeed.


Iraqi resistance is destroying your economy and army and reputation.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:17 pm

No, I think the Americans are doing all that by themselves.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:19 pm

Hashberry wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
But what does this all have to do with the Eid bombing?


Leverage.


Can you explain this to me in just a few sentences?



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03 Oct 2008, 5:23 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Hashberry wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
But what does this all have to do with the Eid bombing?


Leverage.


Can you explain this to me in just a few sentences?


It is a common tactic of the CIA with the help of mossad to create terrible bomb attacks in public centers and blame it on terrorists in order to exert leverage on the governments of those country's by destabilizing society.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:24 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio



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03 Oct 2008, 5:26 pm

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Hashberry, everyone thinks he/she is right. Nobody likes to be told they're wrong. Insulting others won't get you anywhere (I need to apply this to myself...lose my temper too easily ><). Everyone will believe everything that's told by their govt or by a news channel without hesitation. Nobody will believe that the source they're trusting is lying to them.

How did the Church react when Galileo said the world is round? What was public opinion in the west when Time magazine named Hitler as "man of the year" in 1937? Propaganda is indeed a very powerful tool.

Notably, all scholars at the time knew the world was round, and Galileo was troubled for advocating Heliocentrism.

Narratives form an integral part of everyone's world view, and they necessarily take liberties with the truth. Galileo and the like are consistently abused figures.


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03 Oct 2008, 5:27 pm

Isn't that monstrously unethical and irresponsible?



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03 Oct 2008, 5:28 pm

Thanks for correcting me, twoshots.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:29 pm

Khan_Sama wrote:
Hashberry, everyone thinks he/she is right. Nobody likes to be told they're wrong. Insulting others won't get you anywhere (I need to apply this to myself...lose my temper too easily ><). Everyone will believe everything that's told by their govt or by a news channel without hesitation. Nobody will believe that the source they're trusting is lying to them.

How did the Church react when Galileo said the world is round? What was public opinion in the west when Time magazine named Hitler as "man of the year" in 1937? Propaganda is indeed a very powerful tool.

Even after the US govt publically admitted that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a lie, the majority of Americans remain convinced that North Vietnam attacked the US. That's because the news agencies covered everything up. Most Americans believe that Japan attacked Pearl Harbour for no particular reason. The power of propaganda.

"All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer


You know, i decided to insult people because i believe that many in the west know well the truth about Iraq but do enjoy pretending to believe the government lie in order to salve their conscience. After all no one likes to admit to being a thief.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:31 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Isn't that monstrously unethical and irresponsible?


Very much so. Are we the good guys?



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03 Oct 2008, 5:34 pm

Hashberry wrote:
Khan_Sama wrote:
Hashberry, everyone thinks he/she is right. Nobody likes to be told they're wrong. Insulting others won't get you anywhere (I need to apply this to myself...lose my temper too easily ><). Everyone will believe everything that's told by their govt or by a news channel without hesitation. Nobody will believe that the source they're trusting is lying to them.

How did the Church react when Galileo said the world is round? What was public opinion in the west when Time magazine named Hitler as "man of the year" in 1937? Propaganda is indeed a very powerful tool.

Even after the US govt publically admitted that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a lie, the majority of Americans remain convinced that North Vietnam attacked the US. That's because the news agencies covered everything up. Most Americans believe that Japan attacked Pearl Harbour for no particular reason. The power of propaganda.

"All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer


You know, i decided to insult people because i believe that many in the west know well the truth about Iraq but do enjoy pretending to believe the government lie in order to salve their conscience. After all no one likes to admit to being a thief.


Or a terrorist.



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03 Oct 2008, 5:37 pm

Hashberry wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Isn't that monstrously unethical and irresponsible?


Very much so. Are we the good guys?


There are no good guys.