Autism test 'could hit maths skills'

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Um... let's see. We've got appeal to an authority that does not say what you believe it says, a simply false statement on the maturity of Aspies, an incorrect guess at the educational levels of Aspies, and an assertion that Aspies don't go to university. Then a quantifiably false statement about Aspie math skills, as well as a nonsensical mechanism promoted to explain it.

Yeah. This post literally just reeks of fail.

Weird. It must be something strange about Aspies outside of Norway. Could it be that they don't grow up in rural towns and villages? Go to Special Schools? Private Schools? Are home schooled? Go to schools where they educate separately based on skills and maturity?
Are boys with AS more mature outside Norway? I don't think so. Aspie Males who go to Colleges are a very small minority. YOU think that most of them go to College, based on how many College-educated Aspies there are here in WP.

Maybe it's because the Scandanavian countries are more likely to hand-hold children with AS, therefore encouraging under-acheivement and immaturity? I kind of fear that Canada will eventually go in the same direction...

But that still doesn't change the fact that most of the AS people that I know have either finished, or are in the process of finishing University/College. One doesn't because of additional learning disabilities, and one doesn't because he's poor. The rest are in areas ranging from business to computer science to medicine to sociology to english to education.

Weird. It must be something strange about Aspies outside of Norway. Could it be that they don't grow up in rural towns and villages? Go to Special Schools? Private Schools? Are home schooled? Go to schools where they educate separately based on skills and maturity?
Are boys with AS more mature outside Norway? I don't think so. Aspie Males who go to Colleges are a very small minority. YOU think that most of them go to College, based on how many College-educated Aspies there are here in WP.[/quote]


An opinon is an opinon its not right or wrong.
Were im taught all the aspies i know are mature but theres only about 10 of us.
Some are immature some are more mature.
But what has this got to do with the news article.
Aspies will probably be a small minority because as a population were smaller than nts.

An opinon is an opinon its not right or wrong.
Were im taught all the aspies i know are mature but theres only about 10 of us.
Some are immature some are more mature.
But what has this got to do with the news article.
Aspies will probably be a small minority because as a population were smaller than nts.[/quote]



Yes, but I'm so pissed off about things like this that just builds up a stereotype that might trick parents of AS boys to believe that their sons are future Nobel Prize winners and not future street sweepers.

No, American Aspies go to regular public schools and get no support. Some grow up in rural areas, others in suburbs, others in cities. I've never been to Norway, but I speak based on what I've been told by every psychologist I've spoken to on the subject. By the way, Cambridge has one of the highest rates of AS in the world, so I'm not sure what you're basing the idea that Aspies don't go to college on.

Barely any of the Norwegian Aspies I know online can write correctly, there are parents with Aspie kids who complain that they can't get any special education for their kids and that they are too immature to take school seriously.

I think this is a very bad idea. The rise of autism in general has been happening so quickly and we can't assume this isn't happening for a very good reason.

We have had so many great thinkers in the past. Perhaps many of these people did in fact have a mild form of autism like aspergers, PDD-NOS or even High Functioning Autism .

The fact is some of these are relatively new things were talking about. Autism was discovered back in the 40's by Dr Leo Kanner but asperger's didn't get added as an actual disorder to the the DSM IV until 1994.

We don't know how many great thinkers had asperger's because it is a new diagnosis . But we CAN choose to wait another 10 to 15 years to see how many arise.

I have no problem in finding a cure but using that cure before we know if it is worth curing is a bad idea.

I don't mean to stand in the way of progress but by curing this we may be doing just that.

I have met very few neurotypicals who can write properly. Most writing I've seen (even from relatively intelligent, college-educated NTs) is a haze of incoherency, sloppy reasoning, poor grammar, and lousy syntax. Parents with Aspie kids should complain if they can't get any special ed, if that's what their kids need. Most students are too immature to take school seriously.

What exactly is your point?

Most nt students take school serioiusly. Most AS students do not, because they are just too immature. I've seen a lot of cases where it has been cheaper to put some Aspie kid through art courses in high school because it's cheaper than creating a job for them.

I agree here - I have somehow managed to struggle on to degree level for my second year. Still have no idea how to do well in it...

Perhaps Norway is different from the United States, but very few NTs here take school seriously at all. In what ways are Aspies more immature?

I bet that if they looked at women with AS/ HFA, they would find higher than average participation in math and science compared to NT women.

Yeah, was just about to say...

Maybe it's because the AS students already know that the government will take care of them? In countries that are more socialist inclined, the 'normal' populations are expected to pull their weight, while the 'disadvantaged' populations (disabled, recent immigrants) are assumed to not be able to pull their weight and are therefore encouraged to start using social welfare programs at an early age.

If they are raised with the belief that they will never work, then in all likelyhood, they'll never work. So, if they'll never work, then what's the point of trying? NT students (assuming no other disabilities) don't have that excuse, and they know that they'll be fully expected to get a job to help pay the living expenses of the 'disadvantaged' groups.

In North America, it's harder for a person to make a living on SSI alone, so parents are usually more insistant on their kid having a future. Although with the increasing trend of 'giving up' on these kids, and shuffling them into special ed, that might change.