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06 Feb 2009, 10:46 am

wtf that's just rediculous how is pretending to be insane art? If she wanted to do a project on psyciatric patients why can't she just draw one, or make a short film?


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07 Feb 2009, 2:37 am

I recall that the art student discussed the vile project with her university supervisors, I think that if they had known the exact details of the project they could discouraged the student from doing this distasteful and destructive "art project".

What do you think.

1. They might have known details of her plan to fake mental illness, and then approved it.

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2. They might have known that she wanted to do an art project on mental health, and then approved it not knowing what it involved.

or

3. Did it ever happen ? I just as I was typing this post recalled a case which occured about ten years ago. Some years ago a group of art students did the following. They forged travel documents and other things to suggest that they had been in Spain. They then faked a holiday in spain which they claimed was funded with money obtained for another purpose. Then they kicked up a storm in the media with people getting very angry, and finally they explained how they had never left the UK in the first place.

http://www.leeds.ac.uk/fine_art/arch/sh ... frame.html

If the thrid option occured then how hard do you think it would be to get the boss of a mental hospital and a nurse / doctor to complain about a timewaster who never existed. I would be interested to know if we look into the case how much evidence will we be able to find that the woman did waste the hospital's time.

If the thrid option is the one, then the art has been the angry debate which the project has caused. But it is a case of bad art as the "art" has done before, even if the fake mental case was faked I still say "Go paint a picture".


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07 Feb 2009, 4:04 am

might have been 2.



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07 Feb 2009, 7:12 am

Woodpecker wrote:
3. Did it ever happen ? I just as I was typing this post recalled a case which occured about ten years ago. Some years ago a group of art students did the following. They forged travel documents and other things to suggest that they had been in Spain. They then faked a holiday in spain which they claimed was funded with money obtained for another purpose. Then they kicked up a storm in the media with people getting very angry, and finally they explained how they had never left the UK in the first place.


i guess that works if you're willing to listen to conspiracy, i've heard about people pretending to do something for the reaction yet not acting on it as they either disagreed with it or didn't want the actual trouble.

if this is the case i can see how it could be classed as a form of art, the art of deception, at least if this theory's correct no one got hurt.


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07 Feb 2009, 12:50 pm

Regarding option three, I have started to check the facts of the case for myself.

A St. Göran's Hospital does exist in Stockholm (Sweden), this is the first thing which I have checked. I do not yet know if the hosptial has a psychiatric ward or not.

Second check has been done, the hospital appears to have had at least in the past had a psychiatric clinic on site.

For any one who can read Swedish who wants to read more about the hospital then the web address of the hospital is http://www.stgoran.se/sv/Om-oss/Korta-fakta/Historik/

By the way here is the start of my English - Swedish dictionary for those who think that to waste the time of the staff at the psychiatric is art

psychiatric psykiatrisk
psychiatric clinic psykiatrisk klinik
police polis
be detained in custody sitta i arrest
judge domare
fine bötesbelopp

I might add some more words soon


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03 Mar 2009, 2:38 pm

Second item in the overseas briefing

It appears that a swedish art student has attacked a train as part of an art project.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... ode=405458

Woodpecker would like to ask the question, should someone do some performance art by loading a black maria with these art students and then driving the "black maria" (paddywagon) to the nearest jail ?


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04 Mar 2009, 10:18 am

Weeeeeeird.... What's going on with Swedish artists at the moment?


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04 Mar 2009, 10:41 am

"No offense" topic

Fringe has always eventually tried to go mainstream, but still retains the fringe element. This is why it offends, but the perpetrator always replies:"No offense," but of course it is meant to be an in-your-face thing. The disclaimer is an attempt to explain it all away.

It would appear that the artist in question is using art as an excuse in the way that other guilty people grasp at straws to avoid exoneration. Resistance is futile. :twisted: :?


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