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Angela I think it's best not to buy into conspiracy theories like that. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but Christianity and Islam are two religions that are not compatible with each other.

The Pope never said anything like that either.

Didn't I already say they were not compatible?

http://www.infowars.com/in-new-york-pop ... -religion/

The pope addressed the Muslims in his first sentence - he's supposed to be the head of the Roman Catholic Church - NOT the Muslims. This isn't something that's going to be covered on CNN.

Infowars is some Alex Jones trite, aka mass conspiracy theories meant to scare people. Keep this in mind, Alex Jones thinks 9/11 was an inside job, thinks global warming is a hoax, the moon landing was faked, etc. That should give you all the information you need to know about him and his site.

Just because you don't approve of the news source does not mean those words didn't come out of the pope's mouth.

Like I said - do your research. Don't be so ready to say someone didn't say this or didn't say that without really knowing if you are sure. There are other sources besides CNN btw. I do try to keep up on what the pope says and does since I've been Catholic since birth. I don't see myself as a Catholic now - I left the church and this pope is just one of the reasons.

Problem with this perspective of the "good life" comprising a husband and child she loves, a nice home, steady income and "freedom" is that it obviously isn't shared by many other thousands of women, most of whom live and die under the strict umbrella of the Sharia. It certainly wasn't for Tashfeen. If it had been so, then then she would have tried to assimilate ASAP. But she continued to cling to her "religion", and was probably deeply contemptuous of the women in America. We also don't know that she was "intelligent" and "educated" -- it looks like she never finished D.Pharm, and dropped out to marry that "prized catch", Rizwan, without completing University. Na, not very intelligent at all.

I also don't think she married him for love OR, even worse, loved her own child. My belief -- and it is just my theory -- is that she married him as a means to an end. They each served the other a purpose. He was looking for a "traditional, burqa-clad, religious wife" (his friend explained to the media that Rizwan had told him that what had attracted him to her on iMilap was her willing to wear a full-length burqa). She had probably already been radicalized when she met him, and merely used him to fulfill her own agenda -- which was to "take the sword of Jihad into Kufar territories". How convenient that he was American ! I bet that she also realized that he was also likely mentally unstable (cue his hated of, and obsession with, Israel) and probably ripe for radicalization himself. She probably would have had nothing to do with him had she not learned that it would be easy to induce him to join her in her "mission". The child was just collateral damage for both of them, unfortunately. I don't think they intended to procreate as becoming a Shaheed was probably their end goal.

The only individual that I feel sorry for in that entire family is that baby. I hope that she never learns about her parents, and grows up to be their anti-thesis with a good education, a broad outlook, and retains her innocence for a long, long, long time. I cannot understand how that monster could have left her baby to carry such a horrific burden for life. I hope she gets adopted out, and raised by sane, stable parents. IMO, none of her relatives seem fit for that job, and I hope she finds a brand new family with good role model parents soon.

Poor little thing.

The Bible does not predict any such thing as Chrislam.

Christianity is the belief that Jesus was more than human, died by crucifixion, rose from the dead, promised 'The Comforter' (or Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost), and, at a secret time will return to/for His followers.

Islam's Quran teaches that Jesus was only human, was a prophet, not a savior/messiah, did not die upon the cross, therefore did not rise from the dead, therefore cannot forgive sins.

Furthermore, the Quran teaches that 'The Comforter' that Jesus predicted was.....the Quran!

These two religions cannot be blended together into one without denying/ignoring basic beliefs and principals.

There is no such thing as 'Chrislam' prophesied in the Bible.

Nor is Russia prophesied.

If the Pope Is the Head of the Church, if the Catholic Church is the Body of Christ, then it is disappointing that in the name of Political Correctness he seeks friendship with people who are murdering believers of his Savior, who have desecrated countless Catholic Churches and cathedrals, who deny the divinity of Jesus Himself.

When the Pope or any Catholic priest celebrates Mass, they believe that the wine changes to His blood, and the wafers change into His body.

Islam teaches that someone else......some Muslims believe it was Judas.....died on the cross; does that mean that if the Host miraculously changes, that millions of Catholics have been drinking Judas Iscariot's blood for two thousand years?

I would like to see Pope Francis set up a public debate with some lman, and find out just what exactly these are thinking and teaching their people.

Dear HisMom, I was writing my post, primarily to NurseAngela when you wrote yours, therefore I was not answering your post.
I want to say that your post is well-written, compassionate, and I agree with every word about that baby.
I hope with all my heart that she can be hidden from the media, never, ever be publicly identified, and that she can grow up in a stable, loving home.

According to recent reports , the terrorist couple deposited $28,000 several days before the attack. Where did he get the money? This is in addition to Farook's salary.

My FIL just told us that they (the fire department) are now being outfitted with body armor meant to stop armor piercing rounds. The mayors and police departments, among others, are urging civilians to pick up guns and get a CC permit. Our area is preparing for war. I don't know what measures are being taken to prevent terrorists from attacking (such as finding them prior to any attack) but it's serious here.

Just to back up nurseangela, and to add, it's better to look up "New World Order" rather than "One World Order" because when politicians have specifically mentioned it, it's been the former.

Gorden Brown, for instance. And George Bush Senior. Look them up on youtube.

We; America, Europe, the world in general,have always had groups and some of them....and their leaders.....well, David Icke, anyone?



Some of these groups are serious in their aims, and some attract enough followers to cause tragedies that the rest of us could not have imagined.....Jim Jones, Hitler, John Kennedy (he created the Ku Klux Klan; John FITZGERALD Kennedy was the president).

Would I have noticed the nighttime 'deliveries'?

Would I have called someone?

If so, would anyone have taken my concerns
seriously?

If police had visited and talked with Farook and Tashfeen, would they have seemed like a nice, quiet Muslim couple with a baby and a nice, quiet, stable life?

Supposedly, she did not talk to people, was shy, wore her hijab and did not make eye contact.......would a policeman sense hidden rage/obsession/danger?

Would they have convinced the officers that they were nice American Muslims and that the neighbors were just nosey Islamaphobes?

I can't bloody spell.

Dear Smudge, lots of us do some creative spelling, so go ahead and post!

Curious. What does that say about their morals and ethics (as a generalized group), verses that of atheists(again, grouped) or practitioners of religions that don't just preach "peace" but practice it as well?

Dear Edenthiel,

Well said.

While that may be, it would not be out of character nor ideology for the Pope to have said those words. What he said was that Muslims worship the Christian God, something completely in line with the way the Church has always attempted to embrace, extend, extinguish* other belief systems.

*with apologies to Bill Gates