Anyone else sick and tired of being forced to where a mask?

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Tegnells took the wrong approach, obviously.

In Sweden, the Swedish gov has imposed that masks endangers lives and advises people to not wear them but according to a friend from there, more and more people in his area re wearing masks. I said maybe it's because they are listening to the actual medical professionals than the gov.

I also wondered if this was the Swedish's gov's way of trying to thin down the population and asked my friend if this could be his intention behind it because of people being stupid enough to believe it.

But apparently wearing masks just makes people not social distance and it's not guaranteed you won't get sick but it makes the chances less of getting sick. But sadly this is the mindset many people have about things in life. No cars on road, drive recklessly and forget checking your mirrors and looking both ways, forget stop signs. Hey wear a mask, forget social distancing, let's go to places with large groups of people, let's all party and have everyone wear masks. If this is the actual reason why the Swedish gov is not telling people to wear masks, this is why.

I don't think America has anything to do with it. What was said is those who have knowledge regarding Fauci and Tegnell, regardless of where they live, have a biased preference towards Fauci. It was just an example of cognitive bias being given. That's the part that's arguable.

If by "cognitive bias" against Tegnell you mean, "I never heard of the bum", then we are in agreement.[/color]

That would be "if I don't know about someone, they're irrelevant". I don't know what the term for that is off the top of my head.

I'm tired of my glasses fogging up whenever I go in a store. May need to get some new contacts.

The reason why my nose sticks out of my mask. My glasses will fog up and then I can't see.

Also I don't have the money for contacts and I don't think I would be able to handle contacts since you have to remember to take them in and out. And I don't want to walk in a blurry world.

I spray a little furniture polish on my glasses and wipe it off -- no more fogging!

I'm curious to know why you think that.

We have had a higher death rate than some places that locked down, but a far lower death rate than other places that did quite aggressive lock downs.

One of the things I've been trying to communicate is that it's a lot more complex than a sliding scale from mild to harsh lockdowns. Some lockdowns seem effective, others seem almost completely ineffective, while countries like Sweden go for 10 months with almost no lockdown and still have far fewer deaths per capita than some countries that locked down extensively.

It would be nice if there was a simple linear relationship between lockdowns and deaths, but it seems to be all over the place.

Precisely, and it's not all one way, so there are some people who want to kiss Tegnell and think Fauci is horrible.

But Fnord has rather made my point for me.
He claimed an hour ago to have not heard of Tegnell and yet,


That's some disparaging remarks for someone you claim to have never heard of before and have very
little knowledge of.

I would not risk using furniture polish on very expensive eyeglass lenses!

I bought an anti-fog microfibre cloth to coat my lenses after cleaning them. It works pretty good. Cost ~$20 and good for a few hundred uses.

Much better than having you nose stick out of your mask, risking yourself & others to the virus, as well as scorn & ridicule from anyone around you annoyed that you’re not wearing your mask properly!

I have heard of scuba divers spitting in their goggles to keep them from fogging up, do you think that would hurt the lenses?

I think you mean "If I don't know about someone, I'm not going to blindly believe what they say, and will defer to a known expert". The usual descriptor for this behavior is "prudence".

Besides, Tegnell is a bit of a mess. He touts "personal freedom", but has a history of signing off on forced vaccination policies. Seems a bit contradictory. His own population is aware of, and disapproves of, his shenanegans and hypocrisy. But we're "biased" for not treating his goofy opinions as equally valid...

Again, you complain that people should question things and not accept things blindly, but get ruffled when YOU get questioned or doubted and people won't blindly believe you, or the people that you point to.

You do know that "bias" is not an inherently bad thing. If you're looking for a plumber, and one shop does poor quality work for overly high prices, and another shop does great work for reasonable prices, are you "biased" for picking one of them over the other? Yes. You are showing a bias towards the quality of the work, and the cost of the work. Is it an unreasonable bias? Not at all.

So MAYBE, the reason "those who have knowledge regarding Fauci and Tegnell, regardless of where they live, have a biased preference towards Fauci", is because Fauci IS a more reputable source, and people tend to be "biased" towards the more reputable of two sources. Tegnell's own kinsmen don't trust him.

Normally, this is where someone invokes the word "sheep" or "herd", or similar. Typically to imply that the underlying reason for this is NOT because Fauci IS a better source, but rather, "the herd" or w/e is simply choosing on its own to elevate fauci and "cancel" tegnell for no reason other than hivemind or we.

But hey, that could still be construed as an appeal to popularity (though if the whole world favors someone else over you, I daresay there might be a valid reason for your "unpopularity"). So here's some relevant details.

Fauci has been practicing 2-3 times longer than Tegnell, and has a much deeper presence than Tegnell, and a more impressive track record than Tegnell. But that's just my bias towards quality.

If you want impartially hire a hobo to perform heart surgery, cos it would be biased to assume that a hobo can't perform surgery, then you go ahead. Caveat Emptor. "Bias" can be a result of valid and real conclusions drawn from real facts. If someone is a convicted and admitted child abuser, it's NOT a bad idea to be "biased" against them babysitting your kids for the night.

There is a product called Cat Crap that will eliminate foggy lenses.

Not 100% sure tbh.

I would think that as long as the lenses are clean and free of debris that saliva wouldn’t harm them, but I don’t Know. Not sure if saliva is basic or acidic and if it might affect lens coatings. I also am not sure if any bacteria from one’s mouth could make the leap from lenses to eyeballs and cause an infection. Maybe too far of distance - but I have noticed that pollen on my glasses will continue to make my eyes itchy, sooo maybe? I mean, “fight bite,” is a thing..

I’ve used saliva on snowboard goggles before, but don’t recall it being very effective. The go-to product for ski goggle anti-fogging is a product sold in ski & sport shops called “cat crap.” Other than that I’ve used some inexpensive anti-fog eyeglass lens spray my mom bought somewhere - it worked.

But ski/snowboard goggles are like $100-200, don’t have fancy coatings and aren’t vision correcting and worn all the time. So, would I lick them? Higher probability of doing so, yes, especially if I didn’t have a commercially made anti-fog product on me and they were digging up.

But for my new glasses that I just paid about $1200 for? Nope, nope, nope! I’ll use the cleaning spray, Hoya microfibre cloth, and $20 anti-fog cloth to ensure I don’t F up my new lenses.

Yes, was just typing that up as you posted.